Disgusting

[dnorma2]

This is a very said story indeed.

www.terrisfight.org (http://www.terrisfight.org)

America - starving ,so called vegetables, people to death. We are talking about human beings here. We are no better than Terru Schiavo yet the courts could order her feeding tube to be removed. This is disgusting. Should not be too surprised though we already kill babies by the millions in the most unhumane ways possible. Am I just totally not understanding bioethics here? Do I just totally not understand the definition of a person? Have we just totally embraced a Peter Singer ethics in which the only thing that matter in life is experiencing pleasure and avoiding pain? I guess I am just missing the point.

[Brandan Kraft]

The government's active role in killing Terri is indicative of its wickedness in promoting the death of millions of babies. It's murder plain and simple. The United States Government is simply evil - just like every other government in history. Such are the ways of men.

[dnorma2]

well it looks like the court has decided that terris' life just aint worth living so they are going to starve her to death - way to go -

[Brandan Kraft]

speaking of disgusting, today the Supreme Court of the United States appealed to international law to do away with the death penalty for people under 18!

[Robert R. Higby]

When God re-established mankind after destroying all but 8 souls in the great flood, he gave a very few simple commands obligatory upon all men in all ages since then. As sure and certain as the command to be fruitful and multiply, one of these commands was Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. Gen. 9:6. If man rejects the commandment of God and exalts his own wisdom in its place, he will experience nothing but God's curse from that day forward. We can debate all sorts of things about the proper cause for the death penalty (pre-meditation, guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, etc.). But this decision today is a slap in God's face and a high-handed defiance of his authority and Lordship over the earth. Nothing but evil will result.

[wildboar]

I agree that the only punishment God has established for murder in the death penalty, however I wonder how this fits in to a NCT hermeneutic.

[dnorma2]

yes the supreme court likes to kill innocent humans and spare murderers-
so we have innocent babies dying and chris simmons living--
--way to go so called "supreme" court --



State of Missouri v. Christopher Simmons
944 S.W.2d 165 (Mo. banc 1997)

http://www.missourinet.com/CapitalPunishment/CP_images/2002pix/Simmons_Christopher.jpgCase Facts: In early September 1993, Simmons then 17, discussed with his friends, Charlie Benjamin (age 15) and John Tessmer (age 16), the possibility of committing a burglary and murdering someone. On several occasions, Simmons described the manner in which he planned to commit the crime: he would find someone to burglarize, tie the victim up, and ultimately push the victim off a bridge. Simmons assured his friends that their status as juveniles would allow them to "get away with it." Simmons apparently believed that a "voodoo man" who lived in a nearby trailer park would be the best victim. Rumor had it that the voodoo man owned hotels and motels and had lots of money despite his residence in a mobile home park.

On September 8, 1993, Simmons arranged to meet Benjamin and Tessmer at around 2:00 a.m. the following morning for the purpose of carrying out the plan. The boys met at the home of Brian Moomey, a 29-year old convicted felon who allowed neighbor teens to "hang out" at his home. Tessmer met Simmons and Benjamin, but refused to go with them and returned to his own home. Simmons and Benjamin left Moomey’s and went to Shirley Crook’s house to commit a burglary.

The two found a back window cracked open at the rear of Crook’s home. They opened the window, reached through, unlocked the back door, and entered the house. Moving through the house, Simmons turned on a hallway light. The light awakened Mrs. Crook, who was home alone. She sat up in bed and asked, "Who’s there?" Simmons entered her bedroom and recognized Mrs. Crook as a woman with whom he had previously had an automobile accident. Mrs. Crook apparently recognized him as well.

Simmons ordered Mrs. Crook out of her bed and on to the floor with Benjamin’s help. While Benjamin guarded Mrs. Crook in the bedroom, Simmons found a roll of duct tape, returned to the bedroom and bound her hands behind her back. They also taped her eyes and mouth shut. They walked Mrs. Crook from her home and placed her in the back of her mini-van. Simmons drove the can from Mrs. Crook’s home in Jefferson County to Castlewood State Park in St. Louis County.

At the park, Simmons drove the van to a railroad trestle that spanned the Meramec River. Simmons parked the van near the railroad trestle. He and Benjamin began to unload Mrs. Crook from the van and discovered that she had freed her hands and had removed some of the duct tape from her face. Using her purse strap, the belt from her bathrobe, a towel from the back of the van, and some electrical wire found on the trestle, Simmons and Benjamin found Mrs. Crook, restraining her hands and feet and covering her head with the towel. Simmons and Benjamin walked Mrs. Crook to the railroad trestle. There, Simmons bound her hands and feet together, hog-tie fashion, with the electrical cable and covered Mrs. Crook’s face completely with duct tape. Simmons then pushed her off the railroad trestle into the river below. At the time she fell, Mrs. Crook was alive and conscious. Simmons and Benjamin then Mrs. Crook’s purse in to the woods and drove the van back to the mobile home park across from the subdivision in which she lived.

Her body was found later that afternoon by two fishermen. Simmons was arrested the next day, September 10, at his high school.

[dnorma2]

im sorry moderators if i am reinstating the same thing over and over again, but the what is about to happen is sickening

from the nation right to life website www.nrlc.org (http://www.nrlc.org/)

"It is upsetting to note that Florida law does not allow a dog to be subjected to a death by starvation so why would should Terri, a human being be sentenced to such a death?
St. Louis neurologist William Burke said:
"A conscious [cognitively disabled] person would feel it just as you or I would. They will go into seizures. Their skin cracks, their tongue cracks, their lips crack. They may have nosebleeds because of the drying of the mucus membranes, and heaving and vomiting might ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining. They feel the pangs of hunger and thirst. Imagine going one day without a glass of water! Death by dehydration takes ten to fourteen days. It is an extremely agonizing death."


http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/Terri/mythsvsreality.htm



what in the world are our courts doing-----letting murderers live and brutally murdering innococent babies and adults --- this is disgusting --- I call for prayer on behalf of precious life that is being allowed to be taken away.....

[Brandan Kraft]

I agree that the only punishment God has established for murder in the death penalty, however I wonder how this fits in to a NCT hermeneutic.I don't see how this would be incompatible with an NCT/MCT understanding of Scripture.

[Robert R. Higby]

The commandments to the people of the earth in Gen. 9 are to mankind in general from that day forward; they are given in connection with the covenant of promise to preserve the earth. I know that some pacifists consider these 'Old Covenant only' commands but neither the covenants of circumcision or the Sabbath were even in existence yet at that point in history.

[ray kikkert]

im sorry moderators if i am reinstating the same thing over and over again, but the what is about to happen is sickening

from the nation right to life website www.nrlc.org (http://www.nrlc.org/)


what in the world are our courts doing-----letting murderers live and brutally murdering innococent babies and adults --- this is disgusting --- I call for prayer on behalf of precious life that is being allowed to be taken away.....

Yes indeed. It is even more disgusting when one looks at one's motherland of Holland, once a hub of Christianity with a well apt leader like Dr. Abraham Kuyper. It is now a leader amongst countries that advocate the topic we speak of and then some. It used to be old people, now it seems the disabled and young people are victims as well in life taking. Disgusting indeed.