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Reformed Presby
07-05-2005, 11:28 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/20/lkl.01.html

KING: Because we've had ministers on who said, your record don't count. You either believe in Christ or you don't. If you believe in Christ, you are, you are going to heaven. And if you don't no matter what you've done in your life, you ain't.

OSTEEN: Yeah, I don't know. There's probably a balance between. I believe you have to know Christ. But I think that if you know Christ, if you're a believer in God, you're going to have some good works. I think it's a cop-out to say I'm a Christian but I don't ever do anything ...

KING: What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all?

OSTEEN: You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven. I don't know ...

KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They're wrong, aren't they?

OSTEEN: Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong. I believe here's what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person's heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don't know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don't know. I've seen their sincerity. So I don't know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.


And thats not all folks!

CALLER: Hello, Larry. You're the best, and thank you, Joe -- Joel -- for your positive messages and your book. I'm wondering, though, why you side-stepped Larry's earlier question about how we get to heaven? The bible clearly tells us that Jesus is the way, the truth and the light and the only way to the father is through him. That's not really a message of condemnation but of truth.

OSTEEN: Yes, I would agree with her. I believe that...

KING: So then a Jew is not going to heaven?

OSTEEN: No. Here's my thing, Larry, is I can't judge somebody's heart. You know? Only god can look at somebody's heart, and so -- I don't know. To me, it's not my business to say, you know, this one is or this one isn't. I just say, here's what the bible teaches and I'm going to put my faith in Christ. And I just I think it's wrong when you go around saying, you're saying you're not going, you're not going, you're not going, because it's not exactly my way. I'm just...

KING: But you believe your way.

OSTEEN: I believe my way. I believe my way with all my heart.

KING: But for someone who doesn't share it is wrong, isn't he?

OSTEEN: Well, yes. Well, I don't know if I look at it like that. I would present my way, but I'm just going to let god be the judge of that. I don't know. I don't know.

KING: So you make no judgment on anyone?

OSTEEN: No. But I...

KING: What about atheists?

OSTEEN: You know what, I'm going to let someone -- I'm going to let god be the judge of who goes to heaven and hell. I just -- again, I present the truth, and I say it every week. You know, I believe it's a relationship with Jesus. But you know what? I'm not going to go around telling everybody else if they don't want to believe that that's going to be their choice. God's got to look at your own heart. God's got to look at your heart, and only god knows that.

Mickey
07-06-2005, 12:01 AM
Ow man! Why did you post that? You made me throw up all over my key board and my desk!

ashamoun
07-06-2005, 05:59 AM
I am glad you posted it.

I always knew Olsteen was a prosperity Gospel believer, I just didn't realize that he would take the money of everyone and not just Christians. I know many people that swear by his books, and I've never put the time in to reading him so I could correct his teachings. This is more than enough to rebuke all of his "fans".

Yoder
07-06-2005, 08:08 AM
Are we really surprised about this? Joel and his Ilk are only interested in making a profit off the commercialization of Christianity. You really didn't think he was orthodox did you?

Dave

ashamoun
07-06-2005, 08:13 AM
Are we really surprised about this? Joel and his Ilk are only interested in making a profit off the commercialization of Christianity. You really didn't think he was orthodox did you?

Dave

No, I didn't think he was orthodox by any means. I just didn't know enough about him. I knew enough to know that he wasn't worth my time though. :)

Yoder
07-06-2005, 08:15 AM
Here are his comments on the interview:



Dear Friend,
Many of you have called, written or e-mailed regarding my recent appearance on Larry King Live. I appreciate your comments and value your words of correction and encouragement.

It was never my desire or intention to leave any doubt as to what I believe and Whom I serve. I believe with all my heart that it is only through Christ that we have hope in eternal life. I regret and sincerely apologize that I was unclear on the very thing in which I have dedicated my life.

Jesus declared in John 14; I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me. I believe that Jesus Christ alone is the only way to salvation. However, it wasn’t until I had the opportunity to review the transcript of the interview that I realize I had not clearly stated that having a personal relationship with Jesus is the only way to heaven. It’s about the individual’s choice to follow Him.

God has given me a platform to present the Gospel to a very diverse audience. In my desire not to alienate the people that Jesus came to save, I did not clearly communicate the convictions that I hold so precious.

I will use this as a learning experience and believe that God will ultimately use it for my good and His glory. I am comforted by the fact that He sees my heart and knows my intentions. I am so thankful that I have friends, like you, who are willing to share their concerns with me.

Thank you again to those who have written. I hope that you accept my deepest apology and see it in your heart to extend to me grace and forgiveness.

As always, I covet your prayers and I am believing for God’s best in your life,

Joel Olsteen


He still doesn't get it right. *shakes head*



Dave

lionovjudah
07-06-2005, 08:15 AM
Larry King can be a pain in the butt at times also. He asks that same question for every "Christian" that is his guest. I think, believe it or not, Franklin Graham was the only one I have seen answer truthfully and honestly in regards to those who have not Christ.

He said NO salvation. Pointed to 3 or 4 scriptures and Larry went wild!!!!!!

Yoder
07-06-2005, 08:18 AM
MacArthur has clearly presented the gospel on his show as well...

That seems to be the litmus test for King.

Dave

lionovjudah
07-06-2005, 08:24 AM
MacArthur has clearly presented the gospel on his show as well...

That seems to be the litmus test for King.

Dave

I did not see J Mac. You are correct. King loves the question to try to make people feel uncomfortable.

ray kikkert
07-06-2005, 10:24 AM
Ow man! Why did you post that? You made me throw up all over my key board and my desk!

That reminded me so much of that article John Pederson did about "Billy has a talk with his Pastor"

Christ is the way, the truth, and the life and no one will attain eternal life except through Him alone.

I am very surprised he did not have a Bible with him and quote the Word of God instead of his own pathetic babble.

Reformed Presby
07-06-2005, 11:10 AM
Glad to see all the enouraging comments from those who believe in and defend the BIBLICAL gospel in a age of compromise!

ashamoun
07-06-2005, 12:12 PM
MacArthur seems to be a regular guest of Larry King's as well, and he is awesome when he is on the show. I once saw him challenge a Catholic priest openly on the air, it was great!

As far as Olsteen, I think someone has forgotten, or in his case probably never learned, what it truly means carry that cross and follow Christ. True Christians realize that they have the sharpest sword that anyone could ever dream of yielding, and they aren't afraid to use it. Nor, do they "forget" to yield it when on national television for the sake of not alienating others. Christ wasn't to worried about alienating people was he?

Olsteen, what a crock!

jacobjames
07-06-2005, 05:55 PM
I watched the Larry King interview with this fraud of a gospel preacher. He is spinless, gutless and just an overall false teacher. Only God knows whether this man is saved. But he sure aint no gospel preacher.

If I ever make Larry King Live, and he asks me that question, you can bet your mortgage that Larry will keel over backwards. Jesus is the only way and anybody without Him is headed straight for H, e, double L

James

Dee Dee Warren
08-02-2005, 06:32 PM
Franklin Graham doesn't hesitate to tell it like it is. I have not cared for Olsteen's ministry even before this, primarily because every time I saw any part of it, it was all sweetness and light, like cotton candy. And he does this wierd moves to play to the camera, it must just be me, because no one I mention that to has any idea of what I am talking about.

I saw Hank Hanegraaff last night on Court TV of all places doing an admirable job of arguing against the spread or legalization of the "sex trade."