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Reformed Presby
07-07-2005, 04:55 PM
Thought you all would be interested in this, seeing as how islam FALSELY
proports itsself to be a pieceful religion, you will see that is plainly a lie.
Some (like myself!) would go as far to say that only those who carry out terrorist activites are actual moslems, in the koranic sense.

Comments welcome...

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html

InChristAlways
07-07-2005, 05:31 PM
Thought you all would be interested in this, seeing as how islam FALSELY
proports itsself to be a pieceful religion, you will see that is plainly a lie.
Some (like myself!) would go as far to say that only those who carry out terrorist activites are actual moslems, in the koranic sense.

Comments welcome...

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.htmlHi RP. I have been on both muslim and jewish forums and it appears the hatred comes from those that do not see the message of Peace and Love that Paul, Jesus and God preached in the bible and unlike those of us in nice cushy homes and security, their lives are rooted in different sects and violence across all borders. Islam is a very strict religion and some of the sects are so fanatical, they will execute those who desert that religion. It can really be an experience being on those forums, though they are not for the "squeamish" LOL.

For example, this "jew" posted this on another forum and you can go there to not only look at what I posted but what another jew posted. They are all "semites", just different beliefs and religions[one uses the pagan Talmud the other uses the Pagan Koran], and though they believe in the One God and Creator, there are those that have not been taught what the True Words of God are in the scriptures. This is a christian forum.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55274
Quote: Originally posted by 5thRebbiNpardes
they only want to learn enough to be able to convince you into beleif in their weak man/g-d idol -they seek to indoctrinate you into the horror of christianity -if you would agree with them that Edited by a moderator. is deity and messiah they will soon have you in a torquamadah like position -Never forget their minds are full of evil thaughts (worshipping their idol) until they turn for their wickedness they are no differant to us than Haman -the word rasha has special meaning in this instance -what does the wicked person do to gain acceptance ?=he makes central to his essence the letter shin (The acronym on the mezuzah for shaday ) all of the rashas actions are hipocriticaly pretences as "Holy Causes" that is why the father at the seder is told -hakeh et shinav- to unmask the rasha by removeing his "shin" his piety that they(xians) use to mask their evil now go from this place of evil and study TORAH !

My response:

Hi 5th. You almost sound like a radical Muslim.
May I ask if you were ever a christian at some point in your life or were you raised strictly into the religion of Judaism? And how did you come about your hatred of those of us who believe unto the only [B]"Name" under heaven and earth one can be saved?
What is your religious background another words. Thanks and blessings.

Edit: [For the record, I do not believe 5th is even a true jew from what I have been reading.]

ashamoun
07-08-2005, 06:15 AM
Just so all of you are aware.

www.answering-islam.org (http://www.answering-islam.org) is a wonderful site for learning about Islam. Sam Shamoun is incredible, not only as it relates to his knowledge and understanding of Islam, but also as fellow brother in the Lord.

InChristAlways
07-08-2005, 12:55 PM
Just so all of you are aware.

www.answering-islam.org (http://www.answering-islam.org) is a wonderful site for learning about Islam. Sam Shamoun is incredible, not only as it relates to his knowledge and understanding of Islam, but also as fellow brother in the Lord.HI ashamoun. That is an excellent site as I looked at it last year The jewsforjudaism site is a good site to see why the jews do not believe in Jesus and they use their pagan Talmud to interpret the Torah just as the muslims use their pagan Koran. But what it boils down to is what sayeth the Scriptures?

I asked this question in a muslim thread on a christian forum about Daniel 12 and the resurrection and if you notice she mentioned 2 different sects, almost like the difference between the pharicees and sadducees.

I don't get into the "Koran" much with them, but more of the OT scriptures to see how they view them and try and pin them down on where it shows Muhammed coming in them [the jews are still awaiting on their own "messiah/Prophet" and they will have a very loooooong wait]. And just like the churches, they have different "theologies". Blessings.


http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=56746

Daniel 12:[I]13 "But you, go [your way] till the end; for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days."

Hi and peace and love to you also.
I would like to ask how the muslims view Daniel 12 and if they feel Daniel and the prophets are already with the Lord now. And do muslims believe they are resurrected immediately after death or do they have to wait for the world to end first? Thanks and peace.



One perspective is that this is a spiritual existence before the Day of Resurrection, as mainstream belief (Sunni at anyrate, I can't speak with much authority on Shi'i belief) is that the Resurrection involves a bodily experience. A minority position holds that resurrection is not corporeal.

As for timing. The majority of Muslims hold to a theological position of punishment or reward in the graves. That is, awaiting the Day of Resurrection (although not experiencing time as we know it) humans have either a positive experience if they were good, or a negative experience if they were bad, in the realm known as the grave. At some point in the future (again time not being of this material existence) all people will be resurrected to receive their fate for what they believed and how they lived their lives: Paradise or Hell (either temporarily or eternally, depending on your theological position). ........................
Another poster:

Quote: Originally posted by Ponfyr
What is the current Islamic teachings or a fatwa [فتوى] concerning Aisha’s age when her marriage was consummated? Can you cite readily available or online “fatwa’’ indexes or databases? If you cannot, can you give the Hadith or Sunnah [سنة] referenced in the Fatwa?]

Quote: A fatwa isn't really the right word for the question you're asking. A fatwa is an answer given by a mufti in response to a legal question about some aspect of Islamic law. Eg. Is the meat of crocodiles halal? An answer on a question of historical truth is not a fatwa.
Having said that, there is an interesting perspective on the question of 'A'isha's age up at: http://www.understanding-islam.com/...uestion&qid=375 (http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=375)

Cheers wasalam
Umm Yasmin

Robert R. Higby
07-12-2005, 08:37 AM
Thanks Reformed Presby for providing this list.

Until the religion of Islam itself becomes a suspect in the war on terror, more attacks will always be imminent. Jihadists flow liberally into Europe, Canada, and the USA daily without being asked to swear condemnation of the acts and persons of all Muslim terrorist organizations. Those already here (professed jihadists) are given safe haven, even though we are at war.