Is God Omnipotent or Not or Both?

[WDJD]

Can God be omnipotent and not omnipotent at the exact same time while he was on the Cross.

I raise this question because some people say that he only made salvation possible or that man has to do something in addition to what God did before or in order for him (God) to regenerate someone. In other words he can’t save man on his own and with his own power. In other words God is not Omnipotent.

Others say that Christ’s work on the Cross in it self is sufficient to bring about ones regeneration, with out man adding anything additional. God is powerful enough to save man on his own, without mans help. In other words God is omnipotent.

There are people that say that you can believe in either one of the two Gods (Jesus) and be saved. Could this be possible?

Can God do, A and non A at the exact same time

Thanks to Wildboar for his suggesting we discuss this.



WDJD

[WDJD]

My first thought about this question is:

If someone believes their salvation is based on something they do, or looking at it an other way, if they didn’t do “their thing” they would not be saved is actually believing that they are more power full than God. Their view is no matter how much God wants to save them he can not do it by himself it requires something that they must contribute (some work on their part) in order to bring about salvation.

How a dead person can do any of this is beyond me.

[marcuslid]

My first thought about this question is:

If someone believes their salvation is based on something they do, or looking at it an other way, if they didn’t do “their thing” they would not be saved is actually believing that they are more power full than God. Their view is no matter how much God wants to save them he can not do it by himself it requires something that they must contribute (some work on their part) in order to bring about salvation.

How a dead person can do any of this is beyond me.

Most people are fools
Holy Scripture says
The fool has said in his heart,
“There is no God.”
And if they're worshipping a different Go than the God of the Bible it's the same thing as saying there is no God.

[The Hawker]

Can God be omnipotent and not omnipotent at the exact same time while he was on the Cross.

This question is a contradiction in terms. God is omnipotent, full stop.



I raise this question because some people say that he only made salvation possible or that man has to do something in addition to what God did before or in order for him (God) to regenerate someone. In other words he can’t save man on his own and with his own power. In other words God is not Omnipotent.


To add works, or any requirement on the part of man to make salvation happen, is just sheer blasphemy. GOD'S GRACE + NOTHING = SALVATION. This is the formula that has divided people through the ages.

Religion says that you have to work hard. Problem is, you'll never know if you've done enough.

The God Kind of faith says, "Christ is sufficient". He has done all the work necessary for me to enter the promised land of heaven. If anyone has an issue about this, they need to take it up with God.



Others say that Christ’s work on the Cross in it self is sufficient to bring about ones regeneration, with out man adding anything additional. God is powerful enough to save man on his own, without mans help. In other words God is omnipotent.

Amen and Amen! The above statement says it all!



There are people that say that you can believe in either one of the two Gods (Jesus) and be saved. Could this be possible?

Can God do, A and non A at the exact same time

Thanks to Wildboar for his suggesting we discuss this.

I think it is best for us to believe truth, proclaim truth, defend truth, and leave the rest to God. He has ordered these heresies to be around us, for His own glory. Let us bask in what God has been pleased to reveal to us, and enjoy this.

[Robert R. Higby]

Any person who has the mindset that he/she will only believe the gospel if the content of it is ON THEIR TERMS is not yet born of the Holy Spirit. Forget about the question of whether an 'Arminian' can be saved; the real issue is whether any person has the seed of God's truth planted in his/her soul which results in SUBMISSION to WHATEVER God has revealed about the nature of true gospel as it is learned over time.

The matter of whether God can be both all-powerful and all-good is an age-long debate. The real issue is whether one accepts the FULL sovereiegnty of God or not. If God is acknowledged to be totally sovereign in the disposition of both saving grace and damning wrath, there is no question about the fact that HE and HIS PLAN are GOOD simply because He is GOD and therefore WHATEVER He does is RIGHT!

[Ugly_Gaunt_Cow]

The real issue is whether one accepts the FULL sovereiegnty of God or not.

Yeppers,

This is the dividing line at the most basic level, and clarifies the entries argument.

The terms "Arminian" and "Calvinist" blur that dividing line when we actually mean "those who believe in free-will" and "those who believe in the full sovereignty of God"