A bunch of links about Hyper-Calvinism.

[Dustin]

I guess I really am a hyper-Calvinist, according to these parameters.
http://unchainedradio.com/freedownload/Conference-Chart.pdf

Here we find a bunch of articles about how bad hyper-Calvinism is: http://www.monergism.com/directory/link_category/HyperCalvinism/


I've been listening to the P-Net Conference podcasts, and been blessed very much. I decided to finally come back and revisit some of the old bogey-man stories I heard when I was first reading up on this issue.

I got my first taste of verbal slander in a long while on an old forum I used to post on when I affirmed the predestination of all things and God being the author of sin.

Looking back, it amazes me how willing these people are to tell flat out lies, and try to neuter the Gospel. The apostasy is and has been in full swing for a long time.

[Greg Winegar]

The apostasy is and has been in full swing for a long time.
Since Paul's days, that's why it's the "Great" apostasy.

[trav]

How do I get my name on that "Notable Representatives" list of "Hyper-Calvs"? I will fit right between Brine and Gadsby��

[Dustin]

How do I get my name on that "Notable Representatives" list of "Hyper-Calvs"? I will fit right between Brine and Gadsby��

Agitate! :cool:


I've chosen a few of the "distinctives" from the links from the Monergism site that I differ with and/or find ridiculous. My quotes in parentheses.

They are: that the number of the elect at any time may be known by men (No.)
- that it is wrong to evangelize (No.)
- that assurance of election must be sought prior to repentance and faith (repentance and faith IS assurance of election)
- that men who have once sincerely professed belief are saved regardless of what they later do (No, see Harold Camping)
- that God has chosen some races of men and has rejected others (Utterly stupid, and racist.)
- that the children of unbelievers dying in infancy are certainly damned (Never heard this endorsed)
-that saving faith is equivalent to belief in the doctrine of predestination (No one here believes that.)
- that only Calvinists are Christians (Neo-gnostic Calvinism) (As Brother Nickkonce said, "I know a lot of Calvinists who aren't Christians)


There are a few more of these I'd like to comment on when I have time.

[Saint Nicholas]

Agitate! :cool:


I've chosen a few of the "distinctives" from the links from the Monergism site that I differ with and/or find ridiculous. My quotes in parentheses.

They are: that the number of the elect at any time may be known by men (No.)
- that it is wrong to evangelize (No.)
- that assurance of election must be sought prior to repentance and faith (repentance and faith IS assurance of election)
- that men who have once sincerely professed belief are saved regardless of what they later do (No, see Harold Camping)
- that God has chosen some races of men and has rejected others (Utterly stupid, and racist.)
- that the children of unbelievers dying in infancy are certainly damned (Never heard this endorsed)
-that saving faith is equivalent to belief in the doctrine of predestination (No one here believes that.)
- that only Calvinists are Christians (Neo-gnostic Calvinism) (As Brother Nickkonce said, "I know a lot of Calvinists who aren't Christians)


There are a few more of these I'd like to comment on when I have time.
These above characterizations may be the views of some, but certainly not I. Ignorant men like to slander and misrepresent all those that disagree with them. They are religious politicians. They resort to mudslinging rather than honest discourse.

[Dustin]

Looking back in the Archives, I see Brandan has already dealt with this exact list of alleged beliefs before.

One thing I notice is that these arguments never start from the right perspective. It's always presupposing some sort of compatibility or free will or other nonsense. They never take on the issue rightly because they aren't even on the same page.

[Dustin]

Continuing in this vein of thought...I was greatly blessed by listening to the P-Net Podcasts and Brother Nick's series on predestination.

Part of the problem with opponents (the ones I encounter at least) of the doctrine that we here generally agree on is the inductive reasoning, "from man to God." In this, the religionists have it upside down and by that sidetrack with harping on baptism, or tithing, or really just about anything besides the true Gospel. I, for a time, was "carried away" by this so to speak, but the Lord is driving me back to the true unity of the faith....the pristine and soveriegn grace of God through the person and work of Jesus Christ alone.

Soli Deo Gloria! :cool: