• James Exposed

    "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more of grace: otherwise work is no more work". - Romans 11.6
    Brothers and sisters in Christ,.........It is with sincere desire to present this body of work to the audience of this forum. Again I will attempt to show how the Grace of justification is antithetical to ALL works. There can never be a synthesis of these two ideas. Any addition to Grace or a synthesis of Law and Gospel (Grace), would render Paul’s doctrine of Justification null and void. Many religious churchman however, have taught the synthesis, making faith and works one cohesive unit, along with rendering good works,( the fruit of faith), as a ground, basis, and proof of justification. If good works can be seen (by men) as a bonafide proof of Justification, then we must ask two basic questions. 1. What is the numerical quantity of good works that would prove an individual to be Justified? 2. What degree of substantive quality must these good works possess?

    In this article, I will present evidence, that should be sufficient to indict James the brother of our Lord Jesus Christ, for the crime of Judaizing the Pauline doctrine of Justification by faith alone, without the works of law. James the brother of Jesus, is the antithesis of Paul and never fully comprehended the Pauline doctrine of Justification. I do not believe he was even an apostle as some suggest. A false apostle perhaps, but no true apostle of the Gospel of Christ. However that is another subject worth discussion.

    Whether or not the book of James has been considered a Pseudonymous work, is irrelevant for the sake of this discussion. We will only examine the content of the letter to examine it’s overall teachings.

    In James 1:1 the letter opens with an address to the twelve tribes of the dispersion (diaspora). This opening statement gives us a hint at the audience the letter was intended to reach. I do not agree that the twelve tribes should be interpreted allegorically or metaphorically. There is no warrant for such an interpretation in this letter. This letter is neither parabolic or prophetic, compared to such others as Revelations, the Prophets, the parables of Jesus, etc. The Jewishness of the letter would be understood by the Jerusalem Church (Jewish/Christians), for they too, struggled in the transition from Moses (Law) to Christ (Gospel). The Jewish/Christian animosity towards Paul’s Gentile Christianity, is obvious according to the scriptures as we shall see after we look briefly into a portrait of James.

    A brief portrait of James

    For the sake of brevity, please read the scriptures listed. I will follow with my comments.

    Mark 6:1-4 Jesus makes reference that He is without honor among His own family and kin.

    John 7:1-13 vs.5) Jesus’s brothers did not believe in Him. vs.7) His brothers were not hated. Christ was hated. vs.13) His brothers feared the Jews and were silent.

    Acts 12:17 Notice how Peter after his imprisonment, makes sure to differentiate James from the brethren. This would at least indicate to me that James had some importance over the other brethren. At least to Peter it was important to make this distinction.

    Acts 15:1 The "certain men" Who came down from Judea were of the circumcision party.
    Galatians 2:12 "Certain men from James" were of the circumcision party.

    Act 15:18-21 James statements in these verses are to say the least, incriminating. James response was not at all similar to Peter’s response. James avoided the language of circumcision but still placed four yokes of bondage on the Gentiles. Abstain from pollution’s of idols, from fornication, from things strangled, and from blood. These four commands are still from the LAW of Moses. In verse 21, James supports his statement by appealing to MOSES! No mention of Christ! No mention of the Gospel! Contrast James statements to Peter’s statements in Acts 15:7-11. Peter makes reference to Christ and the Gospel!!

    Acts 21:20-25 When Paul went to Jerusalem, the brethren received Paul gladly. However Paul did not fare well with James. Paul was glorifying God for Gentile conversions. And James and the Elders said to Paul that thousands of Jews were converted also to Christ and "are all zealous of the law".James knew by that time, that Paul was against Moses as a way of Justification. See how the James gang tries to trap Paul in vs.21 then in vs. 22 they challenge him "what is it therefore? In verse 23 They exercise authority. Vs. 24 They ask Paul to recant by telling him to shave his head as a sign of submission to the LAW. Beloved Paul was to crafty for them, and seized every opportunity he could get to preach the Gospel. Paul became "all things to all men"
    Acts 21:26-30 Paul’s seven days of preaching the Gospel was enough for the Jewish Christians. They wanted him KILLED! Where was JAMES? Why did not James stand up in defense of Paul?

    Read all of Acts 22 My question is this. Why was Paul so hated in Jerusalem? And why was James and his followers still allowed to enter into the temple and synagogues unharmed? It was because James the usurper was the head of the Jerusalem Christian church. His false gospel of Justification by WORKS was tolerable to the Pharisees!

    Gal 2: Paul’s statement in vs. 4, makes reference to false brethren who were determined to bring Paul and the Gentile Christians into submission to the LAW. Verses 6-7 can be a reference to James and his followers in this context. Verses 11-14 state that the James gang caused Peter and Barnabas to stumble. Peter must have feared James. Why? Paul defends the Gentile Christians with vs.16 This statement of Paul is in direct opposition to James 2:24. Paul concludes chapter 2 with vs.21.

    Part II


    In this portion, we will examine the Anti-Paulinism of the letter of James. Let’s look at the James statements.

    James

    James 2:14 "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and not have works? Can faith save him?
    2:17 " Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
    2:20 " But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead.
    2:21 " Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the alter?
    I must make comment here. James is dead wrong on his interpretation of Abraham. In Genesis 15:1-6 God promised Abram seed from his bowels. When Abram believed this promise from God, in vs 6, it was accounted to him for righteousness. Abram was Justified long before Isaac was even born. James twisted the scripture to mean that Abraham was justified when he offered up Isaac. This should be enough evidence that the writer of this letter clearly intended to misrepresent the facts. Also James uses the argument of Abraham to misrepresent Paul’s use of Abraham as we will see in part three from Paul’s conclusions.

    2:22 " Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
    The Genesis account does not support this conclusion. Abram’s faith was already perfect before Isaac was born!!. That is why it was accounted to him for righteousness. FAITH ALONE JUSTIFIED ABRAM!!

    2:23 " And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
    James uses the same biblical passage, Genesis 15:6 in attempting to prove the opposite point that Paul was trying to convey. James added " and he was called the Friend of God", which was not in the Genesis account.However,to a Jew who could trace his lineage and blood line to Abraham, this statement was of extreme importance. II Chronicles 20:7 " Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever? Isaiah 41:8 " But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend". The writer of James full well knew that physical decedents of Abraham( whom the letter was addressed ) would take this statement personal, and exploit their pride of being of the lineage of Abraham. I believe the writer put it there to further instill animosity towards Paul and the Gentile Christians. Paul the Apostle said in Romans 2:28,29 "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God". Paul refutes any such notion that a person could be considered a True Jew on account of him being a physical, circumcised, descendant of Abraham. James and his followers hated that statement from Paul. However, James used the term "friend of God" to lend credence to his false doctrine of a Justification by works.
    2:24 "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only".
    This statement is in clear opposition to Paul’s statements. Further proving that the writer of James would not and could not accept Paul’s doctrine of Faith Alone. I might add that Faith is a gift from God. This gift (Faith) looks only in one direction, and has only one object in view. Faith looks to Christ’s substitutionaryatonement (ALONE ) astheonlyproof, ground, and basis of our Justification.When a sinners look inward, or depend on their own worksas a proof, ground, or basis of their Justification,then they will fare no better than Peter did, when he took his eyes of Christ, and started to sink. Matthew 14:22-31 vs30 "But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord save me."
    2"26 "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also".
    Again another wrong conclusion.Let’s analyze this statement. [ body/faith] [spirit/works]

    Can we really agree that the monergistic, effectual work of the Holy Spirit in regeneration and the gift of the Holy Spirit (faith) is DEAD? Titus 3:5,6 " Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour." These verses shatter James false notions of synergism. Faith alone, in and of itself is always vibrant and alive because faith is the sole gift and efficacious power of God alone. To call faith dead, is a repugnant statement, and an affront to the very life giver Himself, God alone!!

    Part III

    " For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    Romans 1:16,17

    The Apostle Paul
    on
    Justification by Faith Alone

    Unmistakably there is a sharp contrast between Paul and James. Including the book of James and other mentions of James the Lord’s brother in scripture, James offers NO support or advancement of the Gospel. One would be hard pressed to find even a morsel. Now with Paul, that is a whole different story as we shall see.

    Romans 2:11-16 vs13 "For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified"
    I want to start with the above verse for one primary reason. Many who support James, use this verse to argue that James and Paul are similar in their understanding when discussing the relationship between Faith and Works as a means and or proof of Justification. On the surface of this statement, one may conclude that Paul and James are in agreement. However if this statement were to agree with James, Paul would be contradicting himself in the following chapters of Romans, and in the book of Galatians. If we exegete this passage in it’s context, we will see no contradictions. Chapter 2, opens with a stern rebuke against those (primarily Jews-"O man") who judge one another, and they themselves do the same things. Paul proceeds in this chapter to show that Jew and Gentile are alike.

    Vs 11 "For there is no respect of persons with God." vs12 "For as many as have sinned without law (Gentiles) shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law (Jews) shall be judged by the law."

    Both are guilty of sin. Jew and Gentile alike.

    Vs 13 " For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified".
    Now this is a true statement in this context. The point that Paul was making, is that Jews were good hearers of the Law. Every Sabbath the Jews would enter the synagogue and hear the Law as it was read from Moses. The Jews thought that they were superior to all the nations around them. But just hearing the law is not good enough. The Law demands perfect obedience. Not only by obeying the letter of the Law,(outward observances), but also obeying the intent and spirit of the law from the heart (pure and sinless motives and desires). This type of obedience would then render a man Justified. Only one man in history is and was able to perform this type of obedience. That is the God/Man Jesus Christ! Matthew 5:27,28 "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." The Jews lost site of the true function of the Law.The Law magnifies the righteousness of God, and tells mankind how depraved and incapable we all are in attempting to satisfy the requirements of the law. The Law necessitates a Redeemer from it’s curse.

    Vs 16 "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my Gospel"
    Paul’s main thrust of chapter two, is to show that God is the only perfect and infallible judge. This judgement is based on the Gospel Alone! Only God knows the hearts of men. That is why any form of works displayed, can NEVER be a proof of Justification before God and men. We sinners can NEVER see into the heart of others. Performance of good works can NEVER be a measuring stick of ones justification..
    Vs 25 "For circumcision (Jews) verily profiteth if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made un-circumcision"
    Vs 26 " Therefore if the un-circumcision (Gentiles) keep the righteousness of the law, (faith alone in Christ’s righteousness) shall not his un-circumcision be counted for circumcision?"
    Paul’s major enemies were Christian Judaizers. Those of James. Jews

    Vs 27 "And shall not un-circumcision which is by nature ( all men are born un-circumcised ) if it fulfil the law, (faith alone in the Gospel) judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision (Jews) dost transgress the law?"
    Vs 28 " For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: vs 29 " but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God"
    Only the Master Physician, Jesus Christ can perform this kind of heart surgery. All of God’s elect are true Jews. And all of the non-elect, are not true Jews. No amount of works that we can perform will ever satisfy God. And we do not need the praise or approval of men as a proof of our Justification. Unlike James, who needs some sort of proof of Justification. Faith Alone is not enough with James. James says, I’ll show you my faith by my works. What a prideful and arrogant statement. As if his works are perfect before God and men, to Justify himself.

    If we read Romans and Galatians with the understanding that Paul was answering the attacks against him by Judaizers of the Gospel, we will understand the book of James more clearly.

    Romans 3:7-12 Please read

    Paul in these verses was stating that the truth of God (Faith alone in the Gospel) was considered by some to be a lie, in that it totally nullified Law keeping (Moses). The Judaizers made slanderous allegations against Paul, that nullifying Moses was an evil thing. Paul says that he proved both Jews ( who had the Law) and Gentiles ( who did not have the Law) to be under sin.

    There is none righteous. There is none that understands. There is none that seeketh after God. All are gone out of the way. All are unprofitable. None does good.

    Romans 3:20 "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh (Jew and Gentile) be justified in His sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
    This is the function of the Law. All attempts in adherence to the Law as a means or proof of Justification is futile. The schoolmaster is done away with. It brought us to Christ. It is finished! There are those who say "the law points us to Christ as a way of salvation. Then once saved, Christ points us back to the law as a way of life". That is nonsense! As if the law could add anything to our faith in Christ. Observance to law would then make Christ’s imputed righteousness deficient.

    Vs 21 "But now the righteousness of God (who is Christ) without the law ( Christ pre-existed the written code) is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets."

    The law and prophets witness, testify, and derive their righteousness from the Eternal One, Christ. Not the other way around. There is no law that makes Christ Righteous, He is Righteous by His very being and essence. And there is no written code that makes the elect righteous either.
    Christ in us, and us in Him, through faith alone, is our only hope, righteousness, and justification. NO WORKS!

    Vs 22 "Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of (or in ) Jesus Christ unto all (Jew and Gentile) and upon all them that believe: (faith alone) for there is no difference:"
    Vs 23 " For all (Jew and Gentile) have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
    Vs 24 " Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus"
    Vs 25 " Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are past through the forbearance of God."
    Vs 26 "To declare, I say, at this time His righteousness: that He might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth ( faith alone) in Jesus".

    There is no hint of a synthesis of faith/works in these versus. To Paul it was strictly Faith Alone, in Christ Alone.

    Vs 27 " Where is the boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith." (Faith alone)
    No boasting with Paul!

    Vs 28 "Therefore we conclude that a man ( Jew and Gentile) is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
    No works! No deeds! No proving before men! Faith Alone!

    Vs 30 "Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and the un-circumcision through faith.
    Faith Alone

    Vs. 31 " Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid; yea we establish the law."
    Paul answers his critics who slandered and misrepresented him. Paul was not voiding the law, but rather stating that faith alone in Christ’s righteousness is the fulfillment and embodiment of all law keeping. It is as if we the elect who believe in Christ, have satisfied all the requirements of the law. Imputed righteousness declares to us that we are just and righteous in the sight of God. We have fulfilled the law in Christ through faith alone.

    Some that are of the James and Augustinian persuasion, will say that this verse means that with the assist of enabling Grace, we can now establish and perform the works (good works, not dead works) of the law as a way or proof of justification. This is wrong. The written code could not penetrate the sinful human condition and bring eternal life and justification in the old covenant, as all men (regenerate or not) failed to obey it’s precepts perfectly.What the law needed was fulfiller, and Christ is the answer and fulfillment of the law. The Gospel ofChrist establishes the law WRITTEN IN THE HEART! AND NOT ON TABLETS OF STONE OR PARCHMENTS.

    Regeneration and faith alone in Christ alone IS THE PERFECT ESTABLISHMENT OF THE LAW.

    Romans 4:1 "What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?"
    Vs 2 "
    For if Abraham were Justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
    Now there are those, especially Roman Catholic apologists, who contend that this verse does not deny justification by works, but rather denies boasting before God. The key word is "IF". Paul in arguing his points, is quite comfortable with taking his opponents premise, and in this case {one can be made righteous by works } andrunning it to it’s logical conclusion. If one can be made righteous by works he could boast. But that "IF" is impossible with men!
    Vs 3 "For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness."

    What more can be said? Faith Alone! James is not content with this statement. James needs the works of Abraham, to complete Justification. To James it is {FAITH & WORKS } = Justification . Not Faith Alone? This is what James is teaching. No matter how much someone tries to wiggle, and twist James, to save face.

    James 2:20 "But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

    Faith never depends on works for it’s life. For faith is always living. It is a gift of the Holy Spirit. Faith can never dead.

    James 2:21 "Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered up Isaac his son upon the alter?"

    If James is right. Then Paul said in Ro.4:2 Abraham would have something to boast about before men would he not? But James is dead wrong.
    Ephesians 2:8,9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast"
    Paul is crystal clear!!!

    James 2:24 "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only?"
    This statement by James, directly contradicts Paul’s doctrine of Faith Alone!

    Romans 4:4 "Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt."

    Vs 5 "But to him that worketh not but believeth (faith alone) on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness
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    Read following verses I will add comments.

    Vs 6 God imputes righteousness without works. James disagrees.
    Vs 7 By faith alone, without works sins and iniquities are covered and forgiven. James disagrees
    Vs 8 Non-imputation of sin toward the elect by faith alone. James disagrees
    Vs 9 The blessing of Justification toward Jew and Gentile alike by Faith Alone. No works. James disagrees.
    Vs 10 -11-12 Righteousness [ Justification ] was reckoned to Abraham prior to any works. Faith Alone. James disagrees.
    Vs. 13 -16 Righteousness and justification through faith alone. James disagrees.

    Verses 17-21 Here in this passage is Paul’s inspired meaning of the essence of faith. He uses the Abraham account as an example. Paul shows that Abraham did not look to any substance within himself nor circumstances surrounding his life. Abraham did not consider his own dead child producing abilities, nor Sara’s dead womb. "He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief""but was strong in faith, giving glory to God" Abraham was Fully persuaded that what God had promised, he was also able to perform.

    Vs 22 "And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness"
    Vs.23 "Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him:
    Vs.24 "But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, , if we believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead;
    Vs 25 "Who was delivered for our offenses, and was raised again for our justification.

    This is Paul’s explanation of the Abraham event. No mention of works, no mention of offering up Isaac as a justification by works. There is no hint of a dead, incomplete, or imperfect faith here. To Abraham and Paul, it is Faith Alone in the promise of God. Faith alone! In Christ alone! NO WORKS AT ALL as a means or proof of Justification.

    Romans 5:1 "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ"

    Faith alone in Christ alone is all sufficient for assurance, hope, peace, and confidence. No amount of works that you and I perform can ever add to faith. To rest our hopes in anything other than faith in Christ is futile. To look to any form of works as a proof or justification in your life or another’s life is also futile. James does not agree.

    Romans 10:1-4 "Brethren, my hearts desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, (Christ ), and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness ( Christ ) of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believeth."

    Justification is a verdict of righteousness. But not ours! It is only Christ who is the righteous one.This righteousness is imputed to the elect, and realized by faith alone. James cannot agree with this understanding. James requires some kind of works to complete faith. James is not discussing fruits and consequences of a true and living faith. James says that faith alone is insufficient, and that works are necessary for justification.

    So far after reading these articles how do you think the Apostle Paul would respond to these statements? I believe Paul would thus respond.

    James 2:14 "What doth it, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him?"

    Yes James. No amount of works we do are ever perfect in the sight of God. We are saved by Grace alone, through faith alone, in the person and work of Christ Alone.

    James 2:17 "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone"

    James you do not understand the essence of Faith. "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 James you need a proof you can see. However the gift of faith that the Holy Spirit has given me, is a living substance, and provides a living hope. Faith alone in Christ alone is all the evidence I need. Jesus said "Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet believe" Why do you insist on seeing works?You cannot see into the hearts of men. Your judgement will be at best faulty.

    James 2:18 "Yea, a man may say, thou hast faith, and I have works: Shew me your thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."

    James you are an arrogant man. Even if you showed me that you fed every starving Jew and or Gentile in the world. And gave all your money to the poor. Your works are still filthy rags. Only Christ’s righteousness will suffice.

    James 2:20 "But wilt thou know , O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"

    James, why are you calling me a vain man. You are obsessed with works. Don’t you know that I killed the followers of Christ. And had them put in jail and beaten. Let me tell you something James. "We are the circumcision who worship God in the Spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man ( including you James ) thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a pharisee; concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is of the law, blameless. But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but DUNG, that I may win Christ. And be found in him, not having my own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of (or in) Christ. The righteousness which is of God by faith." See James, all your works are DUNG.

    James 2:21 "Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the alter? No he was not James. I don’t know how many times to tell you. He believed the promise of God and was justified. Way before Isaac was even conceived. Why have you twisted the Genesis account of Abraham? Was it to justify you works gospel. That is a horrible thing to do.

    James 2:22 " Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect." Are you telling me James, That God justified Abraham with an imperfect and insufficient faith? Do you really think you good works can make my faith alone in Christ perfect?

    James 2:23 " And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed to him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God." James your application of this verse is devious. It is true Abraham believed God. But you are using this statement to mean believing is more that just faith alone. You mean it to be works also. You preach a false gospel James. You preach a faith + works = Gospel Justification.

    James 2:24 "Ye see then how by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

    Well James, it is clear to me that you must be placed under anathema for teaching Justification by works. Remember I wrote that if it be of grace it is no longer of works. And if it be of works it is no longer of grace. James works and grace are antithetical to one another. Why do you insist to synthesize them?

    Because Paul has written so much on this topic of justification, I wanted to cover the main points without glossing over them. I know some may think this is lengthy but it is necessary to try and break through all the years that tradition has held the book of James to be high canon.

    Acts 13:38,39 "Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man ( Christ ) is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: And by Him ( Christ ) all (Jew & Gentile alike ) that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses."

    Please read the whole of Acts 13. Throughout Paul’s missionary journeys, if there were ever a people that were against Paul’s message of the Gospel, they would be mainly (1) Talmudic Jews.(2) Judaized Christians. (3) Pagan and Hellenistic Gentiles. Of course all those sects that are against the message of Grace alone could be listed, however I wanted to summarize Paul’s enemies from that historical time period into those three categories.

    The Pharisaical religious machine was in full operation when Christ entered history ( and still is today, allegorically speaking.) There were Synagogues throughout Gentile lands. In fact, this religious machine was powerful enough to persuade Pontius Pilate the Roman Governor to decide against Christ, even though Pilate had acquitted Jesus four times.

    Matthew 23:15 "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."

    Strong and truthful language from our Lord Jesus. Paul and Barnabas encountered the same hatred and venom not only from Pharisaical Jews, but from Christian Judaizers also. The message of Justification through Faith Alone, in the person and work of Christ Alone, is the foundation that the Church stands on. In denial of this doctrine, the church falls.

    Romans 8:33 "Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that Justifieth."

    The heart of Paul’s message in relation to Justification, is the very fact that Justification is the Sovereign work of God alone! From eternal Election, our human existence in and though history, and finally our Glorified state in the new Heaven and Earth, it is all the work of God in and through His son Jesus Christ, and revealed to us by the Holy Spirit in regeneration. To Paul, no element of human efforts or merits can ever play a part in Justification. Unlike James, a Christian Judaizer, who links human action and cooperation as a vital and necessary part of Justification.

    1 Corinthians 6:11 "And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."

    We the elect are seen and treated by God the Father, through Christ, as sinless, sanctified and justified. We are of the status of "WERE", although sin still is present in our old man. This is the what the Christ event has done for us. ALL of our sins have been expiated by the Christ. We are holy and righteous IN CHRIST!

    In our regenerate state, we experience all manner of temptations, commission of sin, either by action or thought. The Spirit lusts against the flesh, and the flesh lusts against Spirit. We war daily with our members.

    " O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death.?" I thank God, through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law (faith alone in the Gospel of Christ, is the fulfillment of ALL law) of God: but with the flesh the law of sin." Romans 8:24,25.
    The soteriology of Paul, places the burden of righteousness/justification solely on the merits of Christ. This Justification is Imputed alone to the elect. This righteousness is wholly alien and extrinsic to man.It is never inherent or intrincic to mans nature. Man by nature and birth is depraved. Even the works an elect regenerate child of God may perform would still be tainted by sin, thus disqualifying them from being a proof, ground, or basis of Justification. James and his followers, the Roman Catholic Church, some Reformed folks, Evangelicals, Arminians, Pentecostals, and the like, still look to works as playing either a major role ( ground or basis ) or a minor role ( proof ) in securing the verdict of justification. Paul excludes both roles! MAN OFFERS NOTHING TO JUSTIFICATION IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. Titus 3:5-7 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and the renewing of the Holy Ghost. Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." And James has the audacity to say that Abraham was Justified by works and not faith alone!!!!!

    Please read the whole letter to the Galatians. The whole thrust of this letter is to expose and refute the Christian Judaizers.

    Paul in Galatians1:6-9 places an anathema on all those who would pervert the Gospel of Justification. Paul also in verses 11 -12, certifies that his Gospel was not learned from men but rather Jesus Christ Himself.

    Galatians 2:16 "Knowing that a man is not Justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of (in) Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."

    Again the whole polemic of Paul is to refute James and his followers. For they were the ones who were against Paul’s Gospel of Justification.

    Vs 17,18 Paul’s critics accused him and his followers of being sinners in stating that they were justified by faith alone in Christ alone without all works. Then Paul says if that he rebuilds (Moses) the things he destroyed, he would then be a transgressor of the Gospel. There is NO synthesis of Grace and works in Paul’s writings.

    Vs.21 "I do not frustrate the Grace of God: for if righteousness (justification) come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain."

    Again as I shared earlier. To Paul, the whole of the Law encompassed not only ceremonial and cultic principals peculiar to Israelites, but also all moral and ethical conduct required from the heart.. Man is totally incapable of satisfying the law! Thank God for Christ our Saviour who redeemed us from it’s curse.

    In Chapter three of Galatians vs1, Paul’s stern rebuke is challenging. Foolish Galatians who has bewitched you? It was James and his followers spewing out their false gospel of works.

    Galatians 3:6 " Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness . Faith Alone no works!

    Vs 7 "Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham"

    I can just see James and his followers, along with the Jews, who heard or read this statement. Gentiles by faith alone are Children of Abraham? Can you see why Paul’s Gospel was so hated?

    Verses 8,9 God justifies the heathen through faith alone. We the elect are blessed with Abraham The scriptures foretold of the Gospel..

    Vs 10 All those who preach a proof or justification by works, are still under the curse.

    Vs.11 "But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for the just shall live by faith."

    Shall we add to this and say we are justified in the sight of men by the law? Nonsense!! Men are not God,. Justification is God’s business alone. We need no further proof of justification. Faith alone is the answer of a good conscience.

    Vs. 12 " And the Law is not of faith: but the man that doeth them shall live in them."

    Paul again reiterates the uselessness of the law as a way of justification. To Paul it is faith alone.

    Versus 13-14 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, that the blessings of Abraham will come on the Gentiles through faith alone in Christ alone!

    In Chapter five of Galatians Paul continues to strengthen his argument in defense of Justification by Faith Alone. Paul knows his Gospel, and knows the enemies of the Gospel. He asks them. Who did hinder you that you should not obey the truth? Paul says that these Judaizers were not from God. And then says these teachings are leaven. Jesus also warned us of the leaven of the Pharisees.

    Galatians 5;11 "And I, Brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? Then is the offense of the cross ceased."

    Paul is stating to his audience that the offense of the cross would cease if he preached a justification by works. Also his persecution would also cease. Faith Alone brings the wrath of all religions onto the elect. Especially false Christian ones.

    Hebrews 10:38,39 "Now the Just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul"

    So far reading all that has been written by Paul, pertaining to Faith and Justification, what are we to understand from this scripture? Any looking to works as a way or proof of justification is futile. It is considered a drawing back or drawing away from faith alone. But here is the marvelous news. We the elect are not of them that trust in good works as a proof or means of justification, thus going back unto perdition. We believe in Christ alone through faith alone as our only justification.

    Below is a link to Martin Luther's commentary on Galatians. Glean whatever truth you may.
    http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/...b/gal-inx.html

    Part IV

    Historical Evidence & Observations
    James The Just

    In this final chapter, we will consider James from an historical perspective. Quotes will be supplied from various authors that were written not long, perhaps 2-4 centuries after the death of James.

    My intention is to place information before this audience, as we would also in a court of Law during trial proceedings. Whether or not this information is 100% accurate is not the issue. If the historical writings are accurate, then it further supports our claims against James. If it is somewhat, or not at all accurate, then we have nothing in Scripture to vindicate James either. James loses either way. The burden of proof will be on the reader to find scriptural evidence or historical evidence as pertaining to James the Lord’s half brother, that would vindicate James. Show me from the Scripture, and or historical writings where James was a champion of the Gospel.

    My comments will follow the cited passages.

    Thomas 12. The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that Thou wilt leave us. Who is it that will become great over us?" Jesus said unto them, "Whithersoever ye are come, ye will go to James the Righteous. It is for the righteous' sake that heaven and earth were created.


    Taken from heretical Gospel of Thomas, we will get a glimpse at the aura that surrounded James and his followers. James clearly ascended to being the head of the Jerusalem Church. When Christ went into the temple at Jerusalem and overturned the money tables, the religious leaders wanted to stone Christ. Paul, Peter, John, and the true followers of Christ were also hated, and their lives were always in jeopardy until their death. Has James the righteous become great over us?
    "The Lord, after he had given the linen cloth to the priest's slave, went to James and appeared to him. (Now James had sworn not to eat bread from the time that he drank from the Lord's cup until he would see him raised from among those who sleep.) Shortly after this the Lord said, 'Bring a table and some bread.'
    And Immediately it is added: He took the bread, blessed it, broke it, and gave it to James the Just and said to him, 'My brother, eat your bread, for the Son of Adam has been raised from among those who sleep."
    [Gospel of the Hebrews] 9:1-4
    In another heretical book written around that time period, we read more falsehoods. It is my opinion that these books were written as propaganda to further lend credence to James. We know from scripture, that James and his followers were already against the Pauline message of the True Gospel, which is Justification through faith alone.
    "Control of the Church passed to the apostles, together with the Lord's brother James , whom everyone ... has called the Righteous..." - Eusebius (quoting Hegesippus, an early second century Jewish Christian writer), Ecclesiastical History, 2.23
    Why was James called the Just or Righteous one? "There is none righteous, no, not one". And no one man controls the Church. Jesus Christ is the head of the Church, and he leads His Elect by the effectual working of the Holy Spiritand truth.

    Quoting Hegasippus, Eusebius states that James 'the Righteous' 'was holy from his birth'..."

    Hegasippus also described him as a "Nazarite"

    "He drank no wine...ate no animal food; no razor came near his head; he did not smear himself with oil, and took no baths. He alone was permitted to enter the Holy Place [the Holy of Holies in the temple], for his garments were not of wool but of linen [i.e., priestly robes]. He used to enter the Sanctuary alone, and was often found on his knees beseeching forgiveness for the people, so that his knees grew hard like a camels...because of unsurpassable righteousness, he was called the Righteous and...'Bulwark of the people'..."
    - Eusebius, The History of the Church 2,23
    What a pious man James was. James still followed the Mosaic Law. Hardly a Christian, would you not agree? Jesus our Lord said "If they hate me they will also hate you" "If they persecute me, they will also persecute you". Nothing James has done in the above quote would appease or impress God. And James says "Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works". All of James righteousness is still filthy rags (DUNG).

    You can now see why Roman Catholics, clergy and laity, along with all other false cults, practice salvific suffering. Flagellation, Starving, Bloodletting, Cloistered monastic life, etc. etc. These ignorant souls think they can merit God’s justification, or in the case of Protest-ANTS, prove to men they are justified. In third world countries where the poor and ignorant are exploited by the Roman Church and her whore daughters, these folks nail themselves on crosses and walk the cobblestone streets on their knees till they bleed on Good Friday. Satanic will worship at it’s finest hour. Rome and her whore daughters, love the book of James. This book allows them to justify their works religion.

    From the death of the last true Apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, there have been numerous writings from men claiming to be Christian, and also non- Christian historical writings. We will only seek information from the early periods up to and including the fourth century. Below is a writing from Hegesippus:


    Concerning the martyrdom of James, the brother of the Lord, from Book V.
    [James, the Lord’s brother, succeeds to the government of the Church, in conjunction with the apostles. He has been universally called the Just, from the days of the Lord down to the present time. For many bore the name of James; but this one was holy from his mother’s womb. He drank no wine or other intoxicating liquor, nor did he eat flesh; no razor came upon his head; he did not anoint himself with oil, nor make use of the bath. He alone was permitted to enter the holy place: for he did not wear any woollen garment, but fine linen only. He alone, I say, was wont to go into the temple: and he used to be found kneeling on his knees, begging forgiveness for the people-so that the skin of his knees became horny like that of a camel’s, by reason of his constantly bending the knee in adoration to God, and begging forgiveness for the people. Therefore, in consequence of his pre-eminent justice, he was called the Just, and Oblias, which signifies in Greek Defence of the People, and Justice, in accordance with what the prophets declare concerning him.

    Now some persons belonging to the seven sects existing among the people, which have been before described by me in the Notes, asked him: "What is the door of Jesus? "And he replied that He was the Saviour. In Consequence of this answer, some believed that Jesus is the Christ. But the sects before mentioned did not believe, either in a resurrection or in the coming of One to requite every man according to his works; but those who did believe, believed because of James. So, when many even of the ruling class believed, there was a commotion among the Jews, and scribes, and Pharisees, who said: "A little more, and we shall have all the people looking for Jesus as the Christ.

    They came, therefore, in a body to James, and said: "We entreat thee, restrain the people: for they are gone astray in their opinions about Jesus, as if he were the Christ. We entreat thee to persuade all who have come hither for the day of the passover, concerning Jesus. For we all listen to thy persuasion; since we, as well as all the people, bear thee testimony that thou art just, and showest partiality to none. Do thou, therefore, persuade the people not to entertain erroneous opinions concerning Jesus: for all the people, and we also, listen to thy persuasion. Take thy stand, then, upon the summit of the temple, that from that elevated spot thou mayest be clearly seen, and thy words may be plainly audible to all the people. For, in order to attend the passover, all the tribes have congregated hither, and some of the Gentiles also."

    The aforesaid scribes and Pharisees accordingly set James on the summit of the temple, and cried aloud to him, and said: "0 just one, whom we are all bound to obey, forasmuch as the people is in error, and follows Jesus the crucified, do thou tell us what is the door of Jesus, the crucified." And he answered with a loud voice: "Why ask ye me concerning Jesus the Son of man? He Himself sitteth in heaven, at the right hand of the Great Power, and shall come on the clouds of heaven."

    And, when many were fully convinced by these words, and offered praise for the testimony of James, and said, "Hosanna to the son of David," then again the said Pharisees and scribes said to one another, "We have not done well in procuring this testimony to Jesus. But let us go up and throw him down, that they may be afraid, and not believe him." And they cried aloud, and said: "Oh! ohl the just man himself is in error." Thus they fulfilled the Scripture written in Isaiah: "Let us away with the just man, because he is troublesome to us: therefore shall they eat the fruit of their doings." So they went up and threw down the just man, and said to one another: "Let us stone James the Just." And they began to stone him: for he was not killed by the fall; but he turned, and kneeled down, and said: "I beseech Thee, Lord God our Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."

    And, while they were thus stoning him to death, one of the priests, the sons of Rechab, the son of Rechabim, to whom testimony is borne by Jeremiah the prophet, began to cry aloud, saying: "Cease, what do ye? The just man is praying for us." But one among them, one of the fullers, took the staff with which he was accustomed to wring out the garments he dyed, and hurled it at the head of the just man.

    And so he suffered martyrdom; and they buried him on the spot, and the pillar erected to his memory still remains, close by the temple. This man was a true witness to both Jews and Greeks that Jesus is the Christ.
    And shortly after Vespasian besieged Judaea, taking them captive.]

    It appears, that Hegesippus has a bias in favor of James. Hegesippus claims that James is a fulfillment of prophesy. More propaganda in my opinion. There are many references to James being the Just One. This elevation of James is not good. John the Baptist said "I must decrease, but He (referring to Christ) must INCREASE"

    In another passage, Hegesippus interprets a passage from Isaiah as being fulfilled in the person of James. Can anyone doubt the impact and control that James possessed in the early Jewish Church? The Judaized form of Christianity that James and his followers espoused, denies the Gospel.

    Let us read another death account from Josephus the Jewish historian. Antiquities book xx

    [AND now Caesar, upon hearing the death of Festus, sent Albinus into Ji~idea, as procurator. But the king deprived Joseph of the high priesthood, and bestowed the succession to that dignity on the son of Ananus, who was also himself called Ananus. Now the report goes that this eldest Ananus proved a most fortunate man; for he had five Sons who had all performed the office of a high priest to God, and who had himself enjoyed that dignity a long time formerly, which had never happened to any other of our high priests. But this younger Ananus, who, as we have told you already, took the high priesthood, was a bold man in his temper, and very insolent; he was also of the sect of the Sadducees, who are very rigid in judging offenders, above all the rest of the Jews, as we have already observed; when, therefore, Ananus was of this disposition, he thought he had now a proper opportunity [to exercise his authority]. Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so he assembled the sanhedrim of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others, [or, some of his companions]; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, be delivered them to be stoned: but as for those who seemed the most equitable ~f the citizens, and such as were the most uneasy at the breach of the laws, they disliked what was done; they also sent to the king [Agrippa], desiring him to send to Ananus that he should act so no more, for that what he had already done was not to be justified; nay, some of them went also to meet Albinus, as he was upon his journey from Alexandria, and informed him that it was not lawful for Ananus to assemble a sanhedrim without his consent. Whereupon Albinus complied with what they said, and wrote in anger to Ananus, and threatened that he would bring him to punishment for what he had done; on which king Agrippa took the high priesthood from him, when he had ruled but three months, and made Jesus, the son of Damneus, high priest.]

    The account of Josephus, seems to be strictly from a political point of view. And as well should be from a man who was Jewish and was not writing from a Christian perspective. The charge of breaking the law is a bit vague though. What law? Could it be because James spoke in the name of Jesus? How had James survived that long then? As mentioned earlier in this writing. I strongly feel that James form of Judaized Christianity was tolerable to the main stream Judaism of that day, because Moses (law) was not rejected as a basis or proof of Justification. James and his followers could survive in that climate. James Judaized form of Christianity may have been viewed as just another sect of Judaism along with a myriad of others that were prevalent in that day.

    As long as the OFFENSE OF THE GOSPEL is stripped away, all that would remain would be a religious power struggle. I think this is what James got caught up with. A struggle for supremacy. James and the Judaized Christian advocates growing and competing with the Pharisaical religious machine.

    Now some may say that James was a martyr for the Gospel. But as I contend, James did not have or teach the Gospel of Justification by faith alone. No more than Roman Catholic crusaders who were killed by the Muslims could be considered Christian martyrs either.

    For those on this forum, who are interested in further study on the subject of James the Lord’s half brother, there are plenty of web sites that will aid in your quest. Below is a link to early writings.

    http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/

    Conclusion

    In the previous post, I supplied a link to Early Christian Writings. Of course there are also many writings from a non-Christian and historical perspective, however if we are to understand the very early sentiments whether oral or written from the 1st to the 4th centuries concerning James and the Jerusalem Christian Church, we have to keep the Biblical mentions of James within their proper historical context.

    The Roman Catholic (Western), Greek Orthodox (Eastern), and the Protestants (schismatics of the Western Church), love to appeal to the early fathers for their identity and foundation. Especially Rome and the Orthodox sects.

    I for one, do not see in the Soteriology of these so-called fathers a continuation of the Pauline message of Justification by Grace Alone through Faith Alone, without all works! In my opinion, I believe that even during the life of the true Apostles of Christ, there were enemies of the Gospel.

    False Teachers, False Apostles, False Christs, False Prophets, False Brethren, etc. etc. The one teaching they share unanimously is the teaching of a "WORKS" as a ground, basis or proof of one’s Justification. James the Lords half brother was indeed one of these "False" people. And the early fathers were not much better either. Without the Gospel, there is NO Christianity.

    Such ideas as (1) Faith being imperfect without works (2) Works are necessary for Justification.
    (3) The meritorious nature of good works. (4) Good works earn believers special rewards in heaven. (5) Good works increase one’s Justification. (6) Good works are proofs that men are Justified, and so forth, are ideas rooted and based in ignorance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    Sinful humanity has always wanted to get credit for something he has done. From Adam and his fig leafs, to our contemporary religious scene, WORKS and existential theology in all forms, plague mankind. It really does not matter if one is a Muslim, Buddhist, Talmudic Jew, Shintoist, or Christian, If Justification is linked to just one minute element of human cooperation, in any way shape or form, IT IS A FALSE GOSPEL!!

    The heretical Clergy, via an unbiblical clergy/laity system, have bound the consciences of men throughout centuries with all manners and false notions of a WORKS based salvation. Such ideas of (1) Church membership roles. (2) Tithing (3) Sabbath keeping. (4) 10 commandment keeping. (5) Water Baptisms (6) Circumcision (7) Sacraments (8) Priests and ministers could forgive sins.
    (9) Sanctuaries (10) Bells (11) Stained glass widows (12) Holy water (13) Clerical robes (14) Monastic life. (15) Humanly ordained ministers (16) Seminary factories who produce clones to be installed like parts, as pastors. (17) Holy Days (18) Holy Seasons. (19) Holy Land. The list could go on and on. All of these actions, thoughts, and works, are symptoms of a false Gospel.

    ECT 1 and ECT 2 are further symptoms a corrupted Gospel.

    God led me to this forum in January of 2006. I never even considered questioning the Letter of James. I, like most of us, have been conditioned to think that this letter is high canon because it was in my "official bible". I even considered, when I was a Roman Catholic, the apocryphal books to be High canon, because that is what the church taught me to believe.
    When the debate arose on James last year, I was silent, however I was reading the arguments from both sides. That led me to research this matter on my own. It was God’s Grace alone that opened my eyes. That is the beauty of not being a member of a certain denomination or group. I was free to examine, and trust the Lord to guide me into truth. If I were to be a member of a church, and questioned the letter of James, the higher ups would have put me out of their fellowship. I have before, many years ago been put out of a church for disagreeing with them.

    Below is a brief list of some helpful historical sources, that will provide more information pertaining to James. The list is not exhaustive but a starting point. There are more passages within these writings that are not listed that would also shed further light on James.

    Ascents of James (from the Pseudo-Clementine Recognitions 1. 33-71 & 4:35 and more
    Epiphanius on Nazoreans, James, and Successors
    Gospel of the Hebrews (quoted by Jerome.. On Famous Men 2
    Gospel of Thomas 12
    Eusebius (quoting Hegesippus) Ecclesiastical history 2.23. 4-7
    Eusebius Ecclesiastical history 3.11 & 4.22.4
    Eusebius (quoting Hegesippus) Ecclesiastical history 3. 19.20
    Eusebius (quoting Hegesippus) Ecclesiastical history 3. 32..
    Flavius Josephus. Antiquities 20. 200-201...20:9:1
    In Nag Hammadi Library: Apocryphon of James..First Apocalypse of James...Second Apocalypse of James...Gospel of the Egyptians.
    Eusebius Eccl. Hist. 7:19
    Ethiopic Didascalia ch XLIII
    Protoevangelium of James

    More on the identity, aura, tradition and history that surrounds James, from a wide variety of early writings not listed above.

    SUMMARIES

    The child Jesus while living at home, heals James from a deadly viper bite.

    James was called the "brother of God."

    The title "Son of Man" was ascribed to James at the last supper.

    James was to be the first in a line of Christian Caliphates.

    James received his position of head of the church from Jesus Himself.

    James was made the Just Bishop of Jerusalem after the Lord’s ascension.

    James receives his office directly from the Apostles.

    James held his rank from the beginning of the corporate life of the Jerusalem community.

    James is called the "chief of Bishops" and "Archbishop"

    Peter calls James "the Lord and Bishop of the Holy Church".

    Clement addresses James as "the Lord and bishop of bishops, who rules Jerusalem, the holy church of the Hebrews and Churches everywhere excellently founded by the provinces of God, with elders and deacons, and the rest of the brethren"

    James as administrative head of the church 1. Receives reports. 2. Engaged in disputations. 3.Assigned Peter to specific tasks.

    James, as "chief of bishops" is portrayed as the Christian counterpart to "Caiaphas.......the chief of priests."

    Peter insists that no teacher or prophet is to be believed unless he has been certified by James.

    Peter gives all his writing to James for safekeeping.

    James is the first in a long line of apostolic succession. The primacy of James has been rejected in the West from the time of Irenaeus onward however was continued in the East.

    During the second century the title of "High Priest" was used frequently within the church. To many early christians, James, as the first among the bishops stood at the head of an order of Christian priests.

    In Recognitions, there are parallels between Jewish and Christian ordination. "Let there be elders and deacons, like the Levites; and subdeacons, like those who carried the vessels of the court of the sanctuary of the Lord; and an overseer, who shall likewise be the guide of all the people, like Aaron, the head and chief of all the priests and Levites in the city." This Christian priestly ordination is traced to the Church of James.

    There was a group within Christendom who viewed the death of James in connection with the destruction of Jerusalem.

    Epiphanius and Eusebius both concur that James entered into the sanctuary of the Temple and that he actually went into the "Holy of Holies" James also wore the high priestly petalon on his forehead.

    I firmly believe that early tradition was deliberately molded and shaped to favor one or more groups within early Christianity. Is it any wonder that we see in the writings of Augustine a blend of pagan and corrupt Jewish thought. The clergy, the sacrifice of the Mass, justification by works, the priesthood, has it origins and infancy to James and his followers historically. Augustine carried the torch for James. Augustine never ever taught the Pauline doctrine of Justification by an imputed righteousness. NEVER!!! And dumb, blind Protestants such as R. C. Sproul and his minions exalt Augustine and Aquinas as champions of the church! How awful and shameful!

    From the writers Hegesippus, Eusebius, Epiphanius, and the Ps Clementines, we see a strong nationalistic, pietist, and cultic views of James. In the Clementines more emphasis was toward church structure and ethical matters. Most of what has been written about James portrays James with an interest in Jewish piety and legalism. That is why the whole thrust of the book of James in the Bible, is concerned with good works as a basis of justification.

    Some will say that even if James lived that kind of Life, James never required it for Salvation. POPPYCOCK!! James clearly attempts to overthrow Paul’s message of Justification through faith alone without all works!

    Also in the Ps Clementines issues of church authority are alluded to. The Jerusalem church was seen as the pure church, although others were recognized, appeals to James and the Jerusalem church were necessary for correction in doctrine. Also, James is seen as the sole head above the apostles of the church. Just like the Pope of Rome. Only as Gentile Christianity accepted the control from Jerusalem, they could remain pure.

    In all fairness I must admit that from the early writings, James has been considered to believe in the Resurrection of Jesus, practice the Lord’s supper, and even the practice of water baptism. Also Eusebius said that James confessed that "Jesus our Savior and the Lord is the son of God".

    However, Roman Catholics, Arminians, evangelicals and a myriad of Protestant sects also pay lip service to these tenants of Christianity. But the fact still remains. WHERE IS THE GOSPEL OF JUSTIFICATION BY GRACE ALONE THROUGH FAITH ALONE, WITHOUT ALL WORKS!

    The agreement or disagreement with the letter of James, would not to me at least, be a cause for dis-unity. However the Gospel of Christ Alone must be Pristine and without any form of works. We can enjoy fellowship in Christ only in that sense. If the letter of James is used to espouse some idea of works as a proof or ground of justification. Then I will be at odds with you, and our fellowship broken.

    The End.

    May the Lord grant His people with all knowledge and wisdom, in Love for the true Gospel.

    Nicholas
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    1. MCoving's Avatar
      Wow very interesting.. in reply to your first post about James I found the verses you referred to said a whole lot about his character. Especially in Acts 21, James was there and so were the elders. James was part of the Jewish culture there, and he promoted the Law of Moses. His focus was more on obeying the law, of Jewish culture than it was on the Gospel and Christ. He was more focused on keeping the law, but why when Jesus Christ fulfilled the law?? Knowing James focus and devotion to the Jewish culture also makes alot of sense to the book he wrote. Still I dont get why the focus on obeying the law when Christ fulfilled it? There was enough teachings on obeying the law and not so much on justification by faith alone. We all know to obey God but its the grace and justification which needed to be taught.

      Also reading in Acts 15 it says this "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved." The Jewish culture believed that unless one was circumcised... unless following the Law of Moses one COULD NOT be saved. So Paul went to Jerusalem to the church to talk to the apostles and elders. Now note the Jerusalem elders were talked too.. the SAME elders that were with James when Paul talked to them in Acts 21. I wonder if James was there at the time as well??? Oh wait.. reading on he was there. So Paul was confronting James and the elders about the false doctrine that one must follow the Law of Moses must be circumcised to be SAVED. And where in this did any of the elders or James object? They seemed to have believed this as well...

      5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who had believed stood up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to direct them to observe the Law of Moses."6 The apostles and the elders came together to look into this matter.7 After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe.8 "And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us;9 and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.10 "Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?11 "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are."

      And do you know James reply to this arguement that his followers the Jews believed that you need to be circumcised to be saved, to keep the law of Moses? James didn't object he just tried to find some common ground and the response was that maybe its okay if they just follow some of the Laws of Moses.. as if that was a start for them...

      I wonder did James ever say that it was okay for Gentiles not to be circumcised?

      I find all this information interesting.. that James was part of the Jewish religion, and with the elders.. that it seemed him and Paul were in opposition to each other. One was focused on observing the law of Moses while the other on Grace and faith in Christ. Thanks so much Nicholas for sharing all of this. It definitely gets me thinking....

      Mary
    1. Whammer's Avatar
      As I read through this and continue to meditate on scripture, I am reminded of Jesus' words to His disciples in Mat. 10:34-39.
      Jesus knew this to be true in His own life at that time as well.......some of His enemies were those of "His own household".
      We have so little written of 1st century history (same as most centuries, alot of information, but how much truth?)
      Anyway, there is nothing in all that I can read that would give me any confidence that James the brother (physical) of Jesus ever came to understand the Gospel in its entirety/the fullness of the truth. I can find nothing written that proves he ever repented of the things that Nick is bringing out here.....let James' own words that we do have recorded serve to stand as his testimony.
    1. ~JM~'s Avatar
      "We are justified by faith alone, but the faith that justifies is never alone." - [some guy named] Calvin

      Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

      Paul is in fellowship with James.

      Jam 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

      James is teaching how our faith in justified in the eyes of men, the idea of pure religion being expressed in actions is also related in Matthew 7 where faith is shown in the actions of the women who washed Christ's feet.

      Again, we find the same idea of faith being expressed in actions, "why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" Luke 6

      And again, we find another example, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 7

      Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

      Compare Christ's words quoted above with the words found in James below:

      Jam 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

      Jam 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

      The Doctrine of Justification: Its Evidence
      A.W. Pink

      Paul and James using Genesis:
      Let’s say that there is a terrible lightening storm one night which does a lot of destruction. Let’s say one bolt of lightening splits in two a huge tree and another catches a barn on fire. The next day a child asks, What causes the destruction? Is it the bright lightening or the loud thunder? The answer is that the destruction is caused by the lightening alone apart from thunder. That is correct. The power of the lightening is what split the tree and caught the barn on fire. The loud thunder didn’t directly harm anything. A second child then asks a totally different question. He asks if all lightening is destructive. The answer to the second question is no. It is only bolt lightening, which is always accompanied by loud thunder, which is destructive. The relatively quiet sheet lightening is harmless. It merely lights up the sky. Sometimes one hears a distant rumbling with sheet lightening, but never the loud crack of thunder. So the destruction is not caused by lightening alone apart from thunder. The sort of lightening which does not cause loud thunder doesn’t strike the earth and never does any damage. The answer to the first question is, The destruction is caused by lightening alone apart from thunder. The answer to the second question is, The destruction is not caused by lightening alone apart from thunder. The two answers appear to contradict each other, but they really don’t. When the two answers are understood in the context of the two questions, both answers are true, and they don’t really contradict each other. The first statement is saying that destruction is caused by the lightening alone. The second statement is saying that the lightening which destroys is never alone; that sort of lightening is always accompanied by loud thunder.
      See Gal. 2:9 Paul and James are in agreement.

      The quote from Calvin at the top adds emphasis, Paul clearly states that salvation is thru faith alone and James states that saving faith is never alone. You would have to argue that dead faith is still a saving faith.

      Oh, I do not recall James teaching anything about circumcision in the epistle in question.

      It appears certain that James is speaking of the manifestation, not of the imputation of righteousness, as if he had said, Those who are justified by faith prove their justification by obedience and good works, not by a bare and imaginary semblance of faith. In one word, he is not discussing the mode of justification, but requiring that the justification of all believers shall be operative. And as Paul contends that men are justified without the aid of works, so James will not allow any to be regarded as Justified who are destitute of good works. . . . Let them twist the words of James as they may, they will never extract out of them more than two propositions: That an empty phantom of faith does not justify, and that the believer, not contented with such an imagination, manifests his justification by good works. Calvin Institutes of the Christian Religion

      See also Gal. 2:9

      James and Paul on Justification
      John G. Reisinger

      To summarize the application of the terms of these two writers we find:
      Paul: Faith is complete trust in, and obedience to, Jesus Christ.
      Works are outward acts of ritual and adherence to a code to attain merit.
      James: Faith is belief in Jesus Christ, the resurrection, and salvation.
      Works are spontaneous acts of love that spring from the fruits of the Spirit.
      "He [James] has no idea of disparaging faith, which he everywhere assumes as present and which he highly values. His point is that faith and works are inseparable in any properly constituted Christian life, and he argues this clearly and effectively."
      Reconciling Paul and James
      William Pemble (1591-1623)

      Honest question, what do we do with Acts? Is it out?

      Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him

      Now that is quite a contrast to what Paul wrote:

      Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

      What about what Peter preached in Acts?

      Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

      PAUL preached Christ died for our sins

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

      1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

      In Gal. 2 we see Peter being lumped in with James, are they working together to subvert the Gospel?

      Sorry folks I can't agree, I'll leave James where it is.

      Peace.

      j
      PS: Pls read the links provided above.
    1. Highlyfavored's Avatar
      JM, I would suggest you read this thread in it's entirety:
      http://www.predestinarian.net/showthread.php?t=3265

      Greg
    1. Whammer's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by ~JM~ View Post
      "
      In Gal. 2 we see Peter being lumped in with James, are they working together to subvert the Gospel?

      Sorry folks I can't agree, I'll leave James where it is.

      Peace.

      Do you see Peter getting lumped in with James, in the context of Gal. 2 as a "positive thing"? Paul rebukes him severely for his hypocrisy and is not "happy" that even Barnabas was carried away in such filth......something completely out of step with the purity of the whole gospel. With these issues being so great a cause of strife in these years of the advance of the gospel.......where do we find anything written by James that shows he also repented of such hypocrisy? Where did he make any effort at all to make it plain to all the new gentile assemblies that he made a mistake?

      Look at Acts 18:24-28, Apollos was able by God's grace to recieve correction too when it was needful that it come, he was a jew who knew the law and prophets.
      The only things from 1st century history that I have found that have been written about James (fleshly brother of Jesus) is how beloved he was by all his fellow-countrymen..........James (son of Zebedee) was not, Peter was not, Paul most assuredly was not....other tradition shows that none of the other apostles were either.
      James, it appears could never let go of the OC. He is the perfect example of a judiazer and that is why we have "some" of his writings preserved till now with us. The book that bears his name is also called "the proverbs of the NT" for a reason....it bears the flavor of OC thought and lacks any real cohesion of thought......that very well may be because there are 2 or 3 people's thoughts expressed in this "book".

      You could also throw in a hundred other names of those considered "top theologians" by many (like Calvin).....what good is that in the presence of Jesus?
      Luke 16:15 bears some real relevance here I think
    1. ~JM~'s Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Highlyfavored View Post
      JM, I would suggest you read this thread in it's entirety:
      http://www.predestinarian.net/showthread.php?t=3265

      Greg
      I have, thanks.
    1. Nicholas Heath's Avatar
      This James issue has been beaten to death, over and over and over and over. My question would be, what is one suppose to do with his own conscience? I believe James is canonical because it is in the canon. There are many great writings out there that glorify Christ, God, the Gospel etc. Many of them are on this site, and people do not even realize that fact. I have purchased the Dead Sea Scroll book, and find myself in awe, of the writings. The fact is, they are not in the canon, and James is in the canon. Are you free to reject the book of James? I would say yes, but it is according to your own conscience. What about the conscience of the brothers and sisters who affirm James to be canonical, for the simple fact, that it is in the canon. These people have to hear, read, that the book of James is meant to decieve, does not belong in the canon, when it is in the canon no matter what they teach. This is the point, you are free to reject the book of James, whether sinful or not. Others are free to embrace it, whether sinful or not. What are we to do with the conscience, if the words of the opposing teams destroys the individuals conscience, who does care what you believe about the book of James, but has the freedom to disagree, without being destroyed by words?
    1. Brandan Kraft's Avatar
      Nicholas, it has posted numerous times on here, I don't think anyone here resents anyone for embracing the book of James as "canonical." Yes it is in the canon, but reprobates put together the "canon." The "canon" as everyone calls it is an invention of men.

      Usually, it's the supporters of the "canon" that resent the dissenters. They can't stand that we think the book of James is trash.

      I don't think there was any conflict here, and I agree, there is a lot of inspired writing out there that is not in the canon that in my opinion is authoritative. You'll even find some of it right on this website.

      I personally cannot find anything of redeeming value from the book of James OR from the account of his life found in the Gospels and the book of Acts other than the fact that it simply reminds us that we will never be free of the legalizers until Jesus returns. We are experiencing the tribulation that began with "certain" followers of James.

      Here is an interesting parallel... I am not on board with it entirely yet though....
      Isaac > Jacob > Joseph > Jesus
      Ishmael > Esau > Joseph's Brothers > James

      Brandan
    1. Nicholas Heath's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Darth Gill View Post
      Nicholas, it has posted numerous times on here, I don't think anyone here resents anyone for embracing the book of James as "canonical." Yes it is in the canon, but reprobates put together the "canon." The "canon" as everyone calls it is an invention of men.

      Usually, it's the supporters of the "canon" that resent the dissenters. They can't stand that we think the book of James is trash.

      I don't think there was any conflict here, and I agree, there is a lot of inspired writing out there that is not in the canon that in my opinion is authoritative. You'll even find some of it right on this website.

      I personally cannot find anything of redeeming value from the book of James OR from the account of his life found in the Gospels and the book of Acts other than the fact that it simply reminds us that we will never be free of the legalizers until Jesus returns. We are experiencing the tribulation that began with "certain" followers of James.

      Here is an interesting parallel... I am not on board with it entirely yet though....
      Isaac > Jacob > Joseph > Jesus
      Ishmael > Esau > Joseph's Brothers > James

      Brandan
      This James issue has been beaten to death, over and over and over and over. My question would be, what is one suppose to do with his own conscience? I believe James is canonical because it is in the canon. There are many great writings out there that glorify Christ, God, the Gospel etc. Many of them are on this site, and people do not even realize that fact. I have purchased the Dead Sea Scroll book, and find myself in awe, of the writings. The fact is, they are not in the canon, and James is in the canon. Are you free to reject the book of James? I would say yes, but it is according to your own conscience. What about the conscience of the brothers and sisters who affirm James to be canonical, for the simple fact, that it is in the canon. These people have to hear, read, that the book of James is meant to decieve, does not belong in the canon, when it is in the canon no matter what they teach. This is the point, you are free to reject the book of James, whether sinful or not. Others are free to embrace it, whether sinful or not. What are we to do with the conscience, if the words of the opposing teams destroys the individuals conscience, who does care what you believe about the book of James, but has the freedom to disagree, without being destroyed by words?
    1. Highlyfavored's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Heath View Post
      This James issue has been beaten to death, over and over and over and over. My question would be, what is one suppose to do with his own conscience? I believe James is canonical because it is in the canon.
      We have done the canon thing already. Who is it, Nick, that determines the canon? If you answer honestly, you have to come to the conclusion that YOU determine what the canon is. Each individual makes that determination for themselves, whether or not they realize it. A group of dead guys decided that the canon should appear with the 66 books we now have. Whether you question it or not, you have still decided what the canon is - you have decided to agree or disagree with what those men determined. If you believe that James should be part of the canon, then believe that. I don't have an issue with you over that.
      There are many great writings out there that glorify Christ, God, the Gospel etc. Many of them are on this site, and people do not even realize that fact. I have purchased the Dead Sea Scroll book, and find myself in awe, of the writings. The fact is, they are not in the canon, and James is in the canon.
      Again, Nick, where does this idea of canon come from? Where did you get it from? Who decided what is canon? There are all kinds of questions that you should probably be asking yourself about what the canon is. I don't agree that James should be part of it, you do, I don't have an issue with that. I do have an issue with you trying to tell me what the canon should be for me or anyone else and how I should act in regard to my communication with others about the canon.
      Are you free to reject the book of James? I would say yes, but it is according to your own conscience. What about the conscience of the brothers and sisters who affirm James to be canonical, for the simple fact, that it is in the canon.
      Like we've already stated they can believe what they want.
      These people have to hear, read, that the book of James is meant to decieve, does not belong in the canon, when it is in the canon no matter what they teach. This is the point, you are free to reject the book of James, whether sinful or not. Others are free to embrace it, whether sinful or not. What are we to do with the conscience, if the words of the opposing teams destroys the individuals conscience, who does care what you believe about the book of James, but has the freedom to disagree, without being destroyed by words?
      What would you have us do Nick, please men? This is all stupid logic in my opinion. It is not our intent to be a stumbling block to any of the elect. No one is forced to be here or to read what we have to say.

      I believe that legalism from the false church is one of the main gospel issues of our age. It obviously was in Paul's day as we can see through some of St. Nicholas's recent posts. We will not quit defending the Gospel. I believe that in our present age, as the elect come to understand the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, they will see the book of James for what it is.
    1. Nicholas Heath's Avatar
      I would like to know, what part of my post that was deleted, was incoherent and off topic. For learning purposes. Thank you. Also, if possible, could you please send me a copy of it, through pm. If possible I would like this information within 24 hrs. If not, I will stick with my assumptions and go from there to resolve the issue.
    1. Saint Nicholas's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Heath View Post
      This James issue has been beaten to death, over and over and over and over. My question would be, what is one suppose to do with his own conscience? Keept it! It is your conscience. And you must do what you think is right. I will respect you for that. I believe James is canonical because it is in the canon. OK. You are entitled to think that way. And I am entitled to disagree. Can we at least agree to disagree? There are many great writings out there that glorify Christ, God, the Gospel etc. Many of them are on this site, and people do not even realize that fact. (I do) I have purchased the Dead Sea Scroll book, and find myself in awe, of the writings. The fact is, they are not in the canon, and James is in the canon. Are you free to reject the book of James? I would say yes, but it is according to your own conscience. Yes Nick I agree. What about the conscience of the brothers and sisters who affirm James to be canonical, for the simple fact, that it is in the canon. I have no power to change the way you think. And Roman Catholics believe that the aprocraphal books are to be canonical because, for the simple fact, that it is in their canon. These Catholics have to hear, read, that their apocraphal books are meant to decieve, does not belong in the canon. These people have to hear, read, that the book of James is meant to decieve, does not belong in the canon, when it is in the canon no matter what they teach. This is the point, you are free to reject the book of James, whether sinful or not. Others are free to embrace it, whether sinful or not. What are we to do with the conscience, Keep it Nick. Do not ever surrender your conscience to any man. Just continue surrendering it to Christ. That is all I ask. if the words of the opposing teams destroys the individuals conscience, who does care what you believe about the book of James, but has the freedom to disagree, without being destroyed by words?
      In Christ,
      Nicholas
    1. gerhard's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Darth Gill View Post
      Nicholas, it has posted numerous times on here, I don't think anyone here resents anyone for embracing the book of James as "canonical." Yes it is in the canon, but reprobates put together the "canon." The "canon" as everyone calls it is an invention of men.
      James was included in the canon by the Papist Council of Trent. However, the Early Church held the book to be questionable at best. Frances Pieper writes in his Christian Dogmatics:

      But as to the canonicity of the Epistle to the Hebrews, the Second Epistle of Peter, the Second and Third Epistles of John, the Epistle of James, the Epistle of Jude, and the Apocalypse, doubts, more or less strongly expressed, were entertained (antilegomena). Eusebius in his Church History lists the homologoumena and the antilegomena. The historical fact that the Early Church differentiated between the homologoumena and the antilegomena cannot be changed by a resolution of the later Church. Luther, too, abides by this judgment of the primitive Church; he says, appealing to Eusebius (Church History III, 25), that in ancient times the Epistle to the Hebrews, the Epistles of James and Jude, and the Apocalypse “had a different reputation.”

      1. Should our opinion of James be informed by the Early Church or by the Papist Church?
      2. Does the Network question the inspiration of any other book of the antilegomena?
    1. Robert R. Higby's Avatar
      For those defending the canonicity of James (I have asked this many times):

      Please engage in actual exegesis of verses 21 through 26 of chapter 2; just like you would any other passage considered biblical. There is only value in debating the issue on which lies at the heart of our difference. Using other verses than these to justify a 'works demonstrate faith' doctrine will never get to the real issue--which is exegesis of the disputed passage and the fact that many of us do not believe it can be white-washed.
    1. MCoving's Avatar
      Hello! So I was reading through The Believers Rule of Life this morning, I really like that book it gets my mind thinking on many things. And I came across those verses in James and something new came to my mind. Now this may have been talked about before but for me its a little new and maybe one of those lightbulb moments. So the verses I've always wondered over are these in James:
      James 1:23-25 and James 2:17,18
      23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror;24 for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was.25 But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does.

      17 Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.18
      But someone may well say, "You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works."



      So my thoughts on this whole dead faith thing is its not really faith!! I believe that if someone has Faith, the real genuine faith from God they will produce good works. There's no if's to it.. there is no such thing as having true faith without works. For God is one who does the work in us, for His good pleasure. If a person was given the Spirit, given Christ, given Faith by God there is NO WAY that they would NEVER walk in works, or have a faith without deeds. So what James is saying doesn't make sense UNLESS he means faith in a false Christ or something other than the REAL TRUE faith. And then it may make a little sense to me... but unfortunely its not really clarified too well in this book.

      haha yeah now that I say this I think this was talked about before with the dead faith thread... but its just interesting to see it more in the light.

      Also other verses I'm still not sure on in James is this:
      21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar?22 You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected;
      How is faith perfected by Abrahams works? How is our faith perfected by the works God does in us? That doesn't make sense to me.. because our faith is perfected because of Christ in us right? It's not like we need to do something for faith to be complete. Yes it will happen as Christ works in us.. I believe faith always produces good works.. but we have Christ THAT IS ALL that makes our faith perfect and complete. Just having Christ in us makes us perfect and our faith complete even if we were to do no works. Right?? Like if on our last breath like the robber on the cross, and Christs righteousness was imputed to our accounts, that robber was Gods child, but he had no time to do any work.... it was just Faith, that Faith without any works right before he died was enough to justify Him. Agreed?

      Mary

      ps: if this is discussing James too much again please disregard I know its been discussed before and is a touchy subject.
    1. Robert R. Higby's Avatar
      Answers to Gerhard:

      1. Should our opinion of James be informed by the Early Church or by the Papist Church?

      Using the Christo-centric hermeneutic of Luther that is endorsed by most or all of the facilitators here, our opinion of any writing that is esteemed to be biblical must be informed by the gospel contained in the Bible itself. Most specifically as it has come to its full-corn fruition in Christ's revelation of Himself to Paul. This is not to say that the gospel started with Paul, of course, but only to say that it reached its full fruition in the message given to Him.

      The opinion of the Papist Church at the Diet of Regensburg, unfortunately, is exactly what informed those protestants who gave us our current canon. And, as you have implied, it is all proposed to be homologoumena (high-canon and universally accepted as scripture in its entirety); none of it antilegomena (low-canon; esteemed to be partly or mostly scripture by many and fully scripture by some). I added those annotations for those who may not be familiar with the terms of Eusebius.

      As far as the opinion of church writers of the second thru fifth centuries is concerned; there is certainly value in studying the history of the varied interpretations on what was scripture and how those views developed and matured. We have tried to do this in our previous canon threads. Since Athanasius was the first person to try and legislate the 27-book NT canon (367), comparing that attempt and its success at Carthage in 397 (which was not an 'ecumenical' council) proves that all of the documented history before Athanasius demonstrates there was no universal consensus on the content of the canon; the statement by Eusebius on homologoumena and antilegomena that you referred to was written earlier that same (4th) century. And the homologoumena canon list of Athanasius cannot be found prior to his time; though there are many and varied lists that contain most of our current Bible.

      The final authority on what is homologoumena is the conscience of each believer informed by harmony with the evangel contained in that very homologoumena. This does not mean that the evangel is contained or proclaimed in every verse of scripture; it does mean that every verse is related to and supports it in some manner.

      2. Does the Network question the inspiration of any other book of the antilegomena?

      There are various views amongst us on this; none of which bother me personally--since I firmly believe in liberty of the regenerate conscience as informed by the gospel and that every true believer will move in the direction of increased rejoicing in the truth as it becomes clear.

      Some contributors here, of course, do accept the full 66-book canon as homologoumena; the rejection of James per se is not a test of calling someone 'brother' here.

      On the matter of antilegomena or the lesser canon, some here would not include James in that either--others would to some degree.

      Most of us here would include both Hebrews and Revelation in the high-canon, even if they were not viewed by some in church history (even Luther) as part of the homologoumena. This is based on the Christo-centric hermeneutic--as we would believe those books to be in harmony with the evangel taught in the rest of the apostolic scriptures.

      For me, the remaining 4 NT books that were originally antilegomena remain an open issue for study. I have the most trouble with 3 John, as it has no attestation of existence until the 3rd century (like James and 2 Peter) and gives no definite gospel testimony. Plus we do not know anything about who the characters mentioned in that book actually were historically.

      This is a hard issue and a hard stance--since we have to take the fire from both the conservatives and the liberals! To a liberal there really is no homologoumena if that concept implies infallibility of the original text of scripture. But as far as the true homologoumena is concerned, all of us here are as impressed with the need to be faithful to its content and meaning as much as any conservative is.

      I hope this helps to answer your question!

      Grace alone and always,

      Bro. Bob
    1. Highlyfavored's Avatar
      Nick, it seems to me that most of our miscommunication started with my post when you got to this line:
      Quote Originally Posted by Highlyfavored View Post
      What would you have us do Nick, please men? This is all stupid logic in my opinion.
      Your understanding was that I was calling logic stupid, or calling you stupid. In fact, I was doing neither. My intent was to say that I thought you were using faulty logic in your response to the thread.

      Our difficulty continued when you repeatedly addressed the question of logic and did not appear to contemplate nor address the other points that have been made. As a result, it was my opinion that you were stirring up trouble and being contentious.

      Now, I think that my opinion was wrong and that you were sincerely trying to understand. Perhaps if we both slow down and try to understand each other we can avoid anything like this in the future.

      Greg
    1. Highlyfavored's Avatar
      My apologies, everybody, for this good thread getting sidetracked by anything I may have done. Let's get back to the good stuff.

      Greg
    1. Nicholas Heath's Avatar
      I apologize as well. For going against my own convictions, or conscience in relationships. I did not do it intentionally, but I still did it! I will not be posting as much from now on. I must think alot, before I do so. For my own sake, and the sake of others. Actually, for the sake of Christ. Someone, not going to mention names, not even interested in talking about this person as of now (hopefully at a later date). Taught that brethren stumble in many things, if anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body. This person, claimed to be a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ. I would rather listen to him, than the lies that come out of my own mouth. Also, I would like to spend more time looking in the mirror. Sometimes I observe myself, and go away, and immediately forget what kind of man I am. Please let one mans trash, be ones treasure.
    1. MCoving's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Heath View Post
      I apologize as well. For going against my own convictions, or conscience in relationships. I did not do it intentionally, but I still did it! I will not be posting as much from now on. I must think alot, before I do so. For my own sake, and the sake of others. Actually, for the sake of Christ. Someone, not going to mention names, not even interested in talking about this person as of now (hopefully at a later date). Taught that brethren stumble in many things, if anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body. This person, claimed to be a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ. I would rather listen to him, than the lies that come out of my own mouth. Also, I would like to spend more time looking in the mirror. Sometimes I observe myself, and go away, and immediately forget what kind of man I am. Please let one mans trash, be ones treasure.
      That one man I think we all know you are referring to is James. Nick and others who love the book of James and believe it to be inspired I'm okay with that. Its okay to quote from there, I also have gleemed precious gems of Truth from that book. I just dont get the one verse that was mentioned. And I am also benefiting much from your study Saint Nicholas on James I appreciate what you bring to the table. I know that this forum has seen many passionate people support the book of James and not support it. I know to some extent we all want unity in doctrine, and desire to come to agreement. Each person believes they are right and that they have the Truth.. sometimes it is hard to come to agreement in that sense. But I do pray someday the Lord brings us all together in unity over this. But I also know the majority people here love each other.. we are patient with each other.. and we wont let differences over doctrine get in the way of valuable friendships the Lord has given us. Of course we all desire to know the Truth.. and I pray someday the Lord reveals the exact Truth to each and everyone of us on this matter... but thanks everyone for staying civil this time in the discussion!!!

      And also its okay Nick to be passionate about the Book of James and believe its inspired or for others.. and its okay to be passionate on the other side. When its the Lords timing we will be revealed the Truth. Obviously one of the parties is believing in a lie.. I dont know I haven't really decided either way.. its just one of those really hard doctrines imo. Anyways I just wanted to say that I appreciate everyone here on the forum, and I believe each person contributes some precious pearl of wisdom here... each person from Brandan to the baby in the Lord or like my friend Dustin who listens more than responds..... hehe . And I love seeing Greg and Nick work things out, and just the genuine love and concern for brethern. Its a huge difference than when we discussed this before... huge! Thanks all!! I am so blessed to be part of this community who live for the Lord and I thank God for all I've been taught here. For all my friends

      Love in Christ,
      Mary