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    Jesus was never the true God.

    Deuteronomy 6:4-5 Hear Yisrael, YHVH our God, YHVH is one. You shall love YHVH your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your resources.

    Exodus 20:1-3 God spole all these statements, saying: I am YHVH your God, who has taken your out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery. You shall not recognize the gods of others in my presence.

    Isaiah 45:5-7 I am YHVH, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am YHVH, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I YHVH do all these things.

    Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

    There is only one God who is YHVH. YHVH is one, not two, three, or more. There is no other God but YHVH. YHVH created all things.

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    Jesus IS God

    Click that link, study it out yourself. The truth is clear.
    "SOLA SCRIPTURA… GRATIA… FIDE… CHRISTUS… DEO GLORIA" Scripture alone, being our final authority, teaches us that salvation is by grace His grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, for the glory of God alone.

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    Click that link, study it out yourself. The truth is clear.
    That was lame, it's all refuted: http://pub13.ezboard.com/fneedsomewisdomfrm7

    Now go read this: http://www14.brinkster.com/stneil777/themessiah.htm

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    I invite all those who believe that Yehoshua [Jesus] is Ha'Mashiach [The Messiah] to come challenge us [who do not believe Jesus is the true God]: http://pub13.ezboard.com/fneedsomewi...picID=87.topic

    Thank you for your time.

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    MyNameIsYura was banned for breaking the rules - trolling - and advertising
    Ditch the Garbage! - Too many people are proud of their humility - I, on the other hand, am not humble - and am proud of it!

    "Luther's New Testament was so much multiplied and spread by printers that even tailors and shoemakers, yea, even women and ignorant persons who had accepted this new Lutheran gospel, and could read a little German, studied it with the greatest avidity as the fountain of all truth. Some committed it to memory, and carried it about in their bosom. In a few months such people deemed themselves so learned that they were not ashamed to dispute about faith and the gospel not only with Catholic laymen, but even with priests and monks and doctors of divinity." - A complaint by German humanist Johann Cochlaeus.

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    I basically agree with MyNameIsYura...

    Well, our Lord Jesus Christ is indeed NOT the True God and never been the True God for there is only ONE True God... who is the Father in heaven... the ONE who created all things.

    Our Lord Jesus Christ never proclaimed that He is God, instead He introduced the one and only True God... His Father... Our Father. And He introduced Himself as the Son of God... definitely NOT the God.

    For our God is God not a man and never been a man.
    Jesus Christ is a man not the God and never been the True God.

    This is the only Biblical TRUTH that is not understood and known by everyone.

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    Andrei was banned for trolling.
    Ditch the Garbage! - Too many people are proud of their humility - I, on the other hand, am not humble - and am proud of it!

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    Why?

    Poor Andrei...

    Anyway, why they are banned? I didn't see a point that they are trolling... They just expressing out their opinion... and they have biblical proofs, haven't they?

    Well, obviously, if anyone who posts here that could actually made a point... or shall I say, with Biblical Proofs, the common response would be... "Sorry, he's banned"... the reason is "trolling"... or whatever...

    It is true indeed that in later times... people would hate the sound doctrines taught by true servants of God... and look for what their itching ears want to here.

    Well, i don't care if i would be banned for this message as what they can normally do. I understand.

    I still pray to God... I mean, the True God... that one day, these people would be enlightened with the truths written in the Bible.

    Greetings... everyone.

    ...and Thank You!

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    Jesus said " I am".

    From John 8:56-59
    Jesus is talking with the "Jews".

    Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad. "You are not yet fifty years old," the jews said to him, " and you hve seen Abraham!" I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am !" At this they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds. John 8:56-59

    God called himself "I AM" in the old testament. So when Jesus said "I am" wasn't he calling himself God?

    I actually received this scripture from God after having a similiar debate about Jesus saying that he was God in the Bible with my sister. I could not tell her where it was that he said this in the Bible and she didn't think he ever said it. Then later on I opened my Bible and there it was. I felt that God was showing me.
    Later I was having the same discussion with my sister in a hotel. I told her that I had found where Jesus says this. I went to get my Bible. She went to get the one out of the bedside table. When I came back the she had opened her Bible to the exact scripture. She was overcome with awe and felt that God had too shown her this scripture. How could this be a coincidence? I feel blessed to share it with you. Hallelujah!

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    "Our Lord Jesus Christ never proclaimed that He is God, instead He introduced the one and only True God..."

    I beg to differ...

    As Jesus was in the desert being tempted by the devil, he said:

    "Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." (Matt 4:7)

    Obviously, Jesus was referring to himself as God.

    In John:

    "I and {my} Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God" (John 10:30-33)

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