Heresy?

[The_truth22222]

her·e·sies

An opinion or a doctrine at variance with established religious beliefs, especially dissension from or denial of Roman Catholic dogma by a professed believer or baptized church member.

-The American Heritage Dictionary

So this is what im wondering if people such as Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, and T.D. Jakes are preaching so called "prosperity heresy" that God wants you healthy, blessed, and Rich. Does that then mean that God wants us Sick, mediocre, and Broke?

And I am refering to these few this time. Not people such as Robert tilton or Peter popoff who are obvious frauds! lol

Anyways if you guys could get back to me on this it would be great!


God bless


The_Truth

[InChristAlways]

An opinion or a doctrine at variance with established religious beliefs, especially dissension from or denial of Roman Catholic dogma by a professed believer or baptized church member.

-The American Heritage Dictionary

So this is what im wondering if people such as Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, and T.D. Jakes are preaching so called "prosperity heresy" that God wants you healthy, blessed, and Rich. Does that then mean that God wants us Sick, mediocre, and Broke?

And I am refering to these few this time. Not people such as Robert tilton or Peter popoff who are obvious frauds! lol

Interesting topic. The one heresy I see is denying that Jesus as come in the flesh. As far as the jews are concerned, they have of course no idea what this means, as obviously Jesus has come in the flesh, and He resides in our "flesh" also. Those who abide in Him abide in Love and His commandments, which Paul stated Love is the fulfillment of these.
Other than that, all other doctrine and beliefs rest also on that commandment of Love. Yes, I do believe in miralcles as that is how God manifests Himself to others at times, and I have testimony to that myself with my wife, and if I wouldn't have seen it with my own eyes, I probably would not believe it.
It happened away from others and only after we got back from dinner after attending church on which hands were layed on her at the church [small pentecostal church] did it happen.

It was an evening service which we hadn't even planned on going but something just pulled me to go there and they just happened to be having a healing service going on, so I talked my wife into going up there [there were 4 others up there with "prayer partners"] where the pastor and I both layed our hands on her and prayed, and all a sudden, I caught a glimpse of a lady getting up from the pew and she just walked right over to my wife and put one hand on her and the other raised in the air [which I grabbed unto] and that evening, my wife was cured. I never saw that lady again[this happened last year]. Pretty amazing.

http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/Heresy.htm
In 2 Peter 2:1 we see what the CLEAR Difference between heretics and DAMNABLE heretics involves. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. The damnable heretic clearly refers to the false teachers or false prophets who DENY the TRUTH OF THE PERSON AND WORK OF MESSIAH. The damnable heretic is one who has left the doctrine of Christ. The damnable heretic does not recognize Yeshua the Messiah, as God, the Son. The damnable heretic is different from the simple heretic, or Jew, in that the damnable heretic has DEPARTED from the doctrine of Messiah. Most Jews, because of persecution by so-called Christians, have never really been exposed to the Doctrine of Messiah, or the Doctrine of the Apostles. Most Jews have NOT Departed from the Doctrine of Christ.


Heresy may have as much to do with fellowship within the church as it does with doctrinal teachings, if the heresy is NOT DAMNABLE heresy. Doctrine and actions are equally important. Wrong attitudes such as counterfeit religious spirits, and spirits of rebellion, and improper attitudes, are as important as the depth of understanding of what God has revealed to man. However in 2 John 7-11 we see that we are not even to say God Bless you, or bid God speed, and most certainly not give substance support, to the DAMNABLE heretic. In those few verses we also see precisely what defines the damnable heretic.



For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess NOT that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth, and ABIDETH NOT in the doctrine of Christ, hath NOT God. He that ABIDITH in the doctrine of Christ, he hath BOTH the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring NOT this doctrine, receive him NOT into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 7-11.

[Robert R. Higby]

It is certainly true that their are levels of schismatic teaching; some being obviously outside of Christianity and others not so obvious to the majority of professors.

Instead of departure from 'the church' (whatever institution is proposed to be the right one) being the standard of heresy, how about departure from the original Apostles' doctrine being the standard?

I do not try and validate whether spectacular physical miracles are real or not in any particular instance; that is not a job ever entrusted to believers. Such miracles certainly do happen. It is important to realize, of course, that attempting to use the alleged reality of miracles to justify the legitimacy of a religious system (which is a phenomenology of most all religions) is a false teaching wherever it appears. The resurrection, the foundation miracle of Christianity, is an established historical fact and needs no further physical miracles to prove more fully the reality of Christ's Lordship. Regeneration is the great miracle of God in the Christian age and it is non-physical.

[GraceAmbassador]

So this is what im wondering if people such as Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, and T.D. Jakes are preaching so called "prosperity heresy" that God wants you healthy, blessed, and Rich. Does that then mean that God wants us Sick, mediocre, and Broke?

And I am refering to these few this time. Not people such as Robert tilton or Peter popoff who are obvious frauds! lol

The biggest heresy disguised into a "mild misunderstanding" which is the biggest euphemism in religion today is "free-will". Free will is the root of all other heresies such as the ones proliferated by the names you mention. If we elminate "free will" from theology, then "giving" will no longer be attached to "material blessings" and "the ability to reach the lost sinner". Giving will be in worship to God to tend to the needs of the ministry and not the "minister" and the minister will be provided fo in a way that is dignified and glorfying to God with no need for ostentatious display of worldly wealth.

As to what God desires for us is plainly stated in the Bible. God will cause us to suffer when we step outside His boundaries as a loving Father who chastises his children. It does not mean that taking a pill for a headache that God caused is going against His will. The real filpside is that God also wants us to be healthy and prosper in all things (2 Cor 9:8). So what these men TheTruth mentioned emphasize is only a "big" thing for those who do not know God as He reveals Himself in the word.

Bob (Bill) is exactly right: To use miracles to make claims of "truthful religion" is, again, a proof that one does not know God and deliberately and sinfully spreads such ignorance for willing hearers: Be it known to anyone that the Bible says that one of the weapons of the antichrist is exactly the "spetacular miracles" they perform. So, miracles are NOT CREDENTIAL to anyone.

The balance is that preaching healing and miracles is NOT a heresy. Using miracles and healing to manipulate people emphasizing biblical passages over the rest of the Bible is a heresy. Added to "free will" these has become the biggest blinding aspect of "christemdumb" today!

My opinion only!

Milt