I've been debating Arminians on numerous topics, on an Arminian discussion board. There are several people on the board who are at least making some semblance of an effort to communicate cordially. (Nevertheless, there are some "meanies" on there too . . . just take it with a grain of salt.)
One of them made an interesting new post:
(Of course, I have already pointed out to them that we must base our beliefs on *Scripture*, not history. Nevertheless, I believe their charges about the early church are erroneous, and worthy of correction.)The purpose of this thread is to apeal to the Calvinists on this forum to answer the questions asked by the Arminians. I have aksed many, many times for answers concerning the early Church evidence against Calvinism on the historical level. I have also recommened Malcolms books - but don't expect them to be purchaced by Calvinists here. Until they understand the position of the Grammer argument it may be too much to ask for an answer against his writings. But the histoorical evidence is on my site for whoever will take the time to read it. Although it needs updating, there is still enough there to make the point. Yet, not a single Calvinist has answered my questions or refuted the evidence in any way. This seems to tell alot about them.
Now, if others will post their questions one last time for the Calvinists to have one last chance, I would like to see what happens. If they refuse, then we know once and for all that they cannot answer them. Plus. I would like to have a thread that contains all these question in one place, so we can have an area for bringing them back to, and I would like to make my own list of them.
Questions:
1. What happened to the truth when it was passed down from the Apostles? Was it immediately lost and corrupted?
2. Why is it that the writings of the early Church are so specifically against Calvinism on every point and so strongly in favor of Arminianism? Did the truth get passed on to the Gnostics?
3. Since Calvinists and Arminians cannot agree on doctrine, doesn't it make sense that early Church writings would be a much better sourse in history than reformation times - since these were the disciples of the Apostles, who claimed that the truth they received had not been corrupted?
Would you guys be willing to (gently) jump into the discussion with me? I think I'm the only Calvinist on that board right now. I have already posted one reply to this new forum topic. But you guys may be able to add a LOT of great info to what I already started.
There is no login necessary. You can post on the forum as a guest if you want . . . just make sure you sign your first name, or something like that, so they will be able to distinguish your posts from mine.
Here's the URL for this particular post:
http://eternalsecurity.us/forum/view...hp?p=8422#8422
I am REALLY looking forward to seeing how this particular discussion goes.
Who knows? Maybe the Lord will lead one or two Arminians to a better understanding of the truth. (I was once an Arminian, and God got through to me!)
Thank you in advance.
In Christ,
Joseph M. Gleason
Originally Posted by biblelighthouse
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