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    Re: What is "Dead Faith?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert R. Higby
    This is my last post in this thread, as I truly am convicted that the continuation of it is fruitless.
    Agreed.
    Lets close this one up.
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    Re: What is "Dead Faith?"

    Quote Originally Posted by MCoving
    Thats confusing.. I thought I posted a comment but its not there.. I was wondering how can we as humans who have a sinful nature judge what is to be considered canon and inspired by God?
    Well, what differentiates us from those who died before us? How did they have the authority to judge what should be considered canon? Why don't we have that same authority?

    Quote Originally Posted by MCoving
    I wouldn't trust myself!
    So why aren't you roman catholic? Seriously, that is the exact same argument the roman catholics use for their entire religion. Why limit this argument to just the canon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary
    I would think that the Bible we follow today, that preaches of Christ and the Gospel has been put together by God and is His Word.
    Why? Just because? I believe most of the Bible is indeed inspired Scripture because it testifies of the Gospel. But I don't accept it because everyone else does or because it's been in book form for a few centuries now. I embrace the Bible based on my own research, not blind acceptance of tradition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary
    and He wouldn't put something thats corrupt in it.
    This is an assertion that you have not based upon scripture at all! Where in the Bible do you have the authority to make this claim? Personally, I think God was brilliant by having false religionists write the book of James and include it in the canon. The elect read it and either reject it, or they misunderstand it and are not harmed by its teachings. The reprobate read it and they are carried away by its false doctrine into destruction. Look at the history of the cults Mary, you will see that all of them use James as their foundation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary
    If that wasn't the case.. and I couldn't trust the Bible then what do I lean on?
    But it was the case. You can trust the Gospel of Christ, and you can lean upon that. Do not put your trust in a collection of books Mary. Put your trust in Christ. Learn of Him and His accomplished salvation. That which is to be seen as Scripture will be made evident to you.

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    what do i know to be the Word of God? So do I judge everything in it by the Gospel that I know?
    Yes.

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    What if I fail, I am human what gives me a right to do that?
    1 Pet 2:9, (KJV), But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary
    I'm so confused now... do we have Gods Word or not?
    Yes.

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    And so I see it claims the Gospel so then it is Gods Word?
    Look at each book of the Bible individually and judge for yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary
    What if I'm just blind or God hasn't revealed something to me.. I'm not all knowing how can I know what is Gods Word??
    Well, I think it would be a safer bet to accept only the books that you know for sure rather than the whole bible without knowing. I do not accept the bible simply because it exists. I accept most of the books in the bible because they are in line with the Gospel of Christ. James happens to be one that I do not accept because it is out of line with the Gospel.

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    Re: What is "Dead Faith?"

    I'm closing this thread. This horse has been beaten to death. If anyone has any further questions, re-read these threads, the answer is probably there. Otherwise send us a private message.
    Ditch the Garbage! - Too many people are proud of their humility - I, on the other hand, am not humble - and am proud of it!

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