I believe that it is simply ignorant not to question something as important as religion. The majority of the planet blindly follows a religion without even the slightest bit of doubt, or curiosity.
I know I question every belief I have on a regular basis hoping to improve my general awareness and knowledge, to make my life just a little easier to understand, and perhaps get a little more insight on things.
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sorry put this in the wrong place. blackhaw
me? or you? lol i confused
me look at your first post.
Corbin, I have never had a problem with somebody sincerely questioning. I respect someone who sincerely questions and seeks the truth.
I don't like it when people question for the purpose of dissention. A good debate is cool, a heated discussion is tolerable...sincere questions or concerns are welcomed, questioning for the sole purpose of stirring up a storm is just not cool though.
When it comes to religions, Christianity, morality, etc...the Apostle Paul commended the Bereans for questioing to be sure that what he was saying was true. I commend that approach much more than blindly following the words of any ole preacher or teacher that comes along.
I respect someone who wants understanding over a blind and ignorant faith.
2 Timothy 4:2-4
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1 Peter 3:15
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I agree with Fledge. I think God works in our lives through our questions. If someone though is just looking for a reason not to believe though I thik that is wrong though. I have seen people who even though all the facts are on one side of an arguement still won't give in. I think that is stupid and wrong. i do not think that honst questions though are bad at all.
You know where I stand on this.
I don't take questioning lightly. I firmly believe it is everyone's responsibility to prove things for themselves and not just take someone's word for it. Obviously, this can be taken to an extreme and not everything can be proved by one person. Given a body of evidence, there comes a point where you can make a reasonable judgement about facts. This does not mean that those facts should be accepted as dogma ever after. When new information comes along that disproves your beliefs or changes them in some way, find out why. This is the nature of the scientific method. Keep in mind that there are those more experienced in various studies that relieve some of the burden of proof.
Without questions, there would be no answers.
Without answers, there would be no discovery.
Without discovery, only darkness remains.
If someone though is just looking for a reason not to believe though I thik that is wrong
Well if you succeed in finding something, and you improve your awareness....then how is that wrong?
It's not wrong. It's good. At least, it's good if truth is really your pursuit and not just being proven correct. I recently re-evaluated my own belief system and came away pretty much not believing in god anymore. (I say pretty much because it is so hard to walk away from something I have previously accepted, like getting out of a warm bed on a frigid morning.) I have taken quite a bit of flak for this decision(not from anyone on this board), but have to make my decisions based on what I understand to be true.
We all live in a different world, anyway. Nobody sees everything exactly the same as another person. Our perceptions and the interpretations of those perceptions are all a bit different. So the reality I am basing my choices and beliefs on is different than anyone elses. I find it important to remember that nobody I talk with will ever see the world this way.
I like your habit of questioning everything that you believe and think that I will attempt to aquire it myself. I apply a questioning attitude to many things, but would do better to be more liberal with it.
Welcome the board!
What I meant when I said
If someone though is just looking for a reason not to believe though I thik that is wrong
is that if someone comes into a discussion and is just questioning to prove himself or herself right it is wrong. When truth is not the objective it is wrong.
"Well if you succeed in finding something, and you improve your awareness....then how is that wrong?"
Because you would be looking through colored glasses. you can't completely get rid of preconceived notions but to just question and look just to prove yourself right is not right. For example many athiests point to this verse when trying to make the Bible look bad.
If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26
I do not know their motives but it seems like many who use this verse are just looking for a reason to discredit the Bible becaus they want it to be discredited and not looking for the truth. See they are not even bothering to look at the verse in context. They have not even thought about any other meaning to the verse except the direct literal view.
What Jesus was saying is that you must God first above everything and everyone else. That God is the # 1 thng in your life. Now I am not trying to come down on athiests here. i am not an athiest but that is not my intention. What I am trying to do is show that some people just want to prove they are right and will believe anytihng that says they are right without really testing it.
Just a thought, but if a book is COMPLETELY TRUE, wouldn't any portion pulled from context also have to be true in and of itself?
What about being able to find HUNDREDS of discrepancies in the bible that discredit it, not just a few?I do not know their motives but it seems like many who use this verse are just looking for a reason to discredit the Bible becaus they want it to be discredited and not looking for the truth.
questian:
"Just a thought, but if a book is COMPLETELY TRUE, wouldn't any portion pulled from context also have to be true in and of itself?"
What about being able to find HUNDREDS of discrepancies in the bible that discredit it, not just a few?
Yes any portion pulled from the Bible within context would be true. Now we are not talking clerical errors. They have occured. I think most scholars will acknowledge that fact. We have already talked about that but we can again. Also questian notice that I am just trying to prove a point about all types of people, not just religous, do not ask questinons just to seek the truth. I feel that whoever you are and whatever position yu hold it is wrong to ask questions if you are jsut trying to prove your own answer and not trying to acknowledging that you could be wrong. If you want to talk about Bible discrepencies we can but maybe we start a new thread about that.
Blackhaw, I'm being a bit of a brat with this response here, but if someone believes that the earth is flat, I will ask questions for the sole purpose of trying to get them to think seriously about their position, not to make sure that I am correct. I'm not sure that there is anything wrong with that, unless I have misrepresented my position as someone who wants to know if the earth is indeed flat and thus my questions about it. Christians and non-christians alike do this, they ask questions about weak areas of the others argument in the hope that the person holding the other view will see the problems in their stance. Of course, the motivation with all of this is to educate, not simply win an argument. Ooops! I went on and on and now I see what you were saying. Oh well.
No, we are not talking about clerical errors, what I meant was that ANY statement taken FROM the context should be true BY ITSELF. Maybe taking something out of context is what needs to be done to determine the truth about it. I'm not sure if this is the case as I haven't given the idea much thought. I need to look into the rules of logic again to see how this works.Yes any portion pulled from the Bible within context would be true. Now we are not talking clerical errors. They have occured.
Questian:
"From the context"? I am sure if I know what you mean. Can you explain what you mean?
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