What's a hyper Calvinist?
What's a hyper Calvinist?
Ask those who insist on using the label. Who should decide what an 'orthodox' hyper-Calvinist is? The title is one chosen by enemies of high-grace Calvinism to cast disrepute on doctrines that they hate, not by anyone 'accused' of such doctrines.
Now see here how sleepy-headed all our opponents are, and how little it helps a man to rely on the ancient fathers, for all their repute down the course of the ages! Were they not all equally blind to, yes, and heeldess of, Paul's clearest and and plainest words?
--Martin Luther
Isn't that a calvinist who goes into hyper space?Originally Posted by ~JM~
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Isaiah 45:7: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Have you read Confession of a Hyper-Calvinist by Brandan Kraft? It is very good.
Here is the link: Confession of a Hyper-Calvinist
Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
Was John Gill called a hyper by other Calvinists of his day?
I am not sure whether the label had yet been conceived at that point in history.
Now see here how sleepy-headed all our opponents are, and how little it helps a man to rely on the ancient fathers, for all their repute down the course of the ages! Were they not all equally blind to, yes, and heeldess of, Paul's clearest and and plainest words?
--Martin Luther
A "Hyper-Calvinist," by definition, is one who goes beyond (hence, "hyper-") what John Calvin taught. To be labeled a "Hyper-Calvinist," to me, is a positive thing because I hope to stay above and beyond, by the grace of God, what John Calvin taught.
Even the Synod of Dort went beyond what Calvin taught in stating Definite Atonement with clarity! So I guess they were hyper-Calvinists too!
Now see here how sleepy-headed all our opponents are, and how little it helps a man to rely on the ancient fathers, for all their repute down the course of the ages! Were they not all equally blind to, yes, and heeldess of, Paul's clearest and and plainest words?
--Martin Luther
Why is 1832 in your name?
I always thought that a hyper calvinist was someone that did not believe that God demands all to be held responsible for believing the gospel, and those that believe that God could save without the hearing of the gospel, and that they only witness to those that show signs of being one of the "elect".
'nesto
There is truth in that with a misunderstanding. We do not believe all will be held RESPONSIBLE for believing the Gospel. Only GOD is responsible for causing a person to believe. All men will be held accountable though. People have misunderstood me on this.
Some truth there as well. Just a misunderstanding. God does save without hearing the Gospel. He did it in his eternal mind. He did it in Christ. Christ saved all the elect. Faith is the evidence of this salvation. God does save, and men are saved without having heard the Gospel, but they WILL hear the Gospel and believe. All who are elect will come to know the truth in time.
We preach the truth to only those that will listen. We don't go around trying to cram our doctrine down everyone's throats. It's common courtesy, and we don't give "offers" of "salvation" in our message.
Ditch the Garbage! - Too many people are proud of their humility - I, on the other hand, am not humble - and am proud of it!
"Luther's New Testament was so much multiplied and spread by printers that even tailors and shoemakers, yea, even women and ignorant persons who had accepted this new Lutheran gospel, and could read a little German, studied it with the greatest avidity as the fountain of all truth. Some committed it to memory, and carried it about in their bosom. In a few months such people deemed themselves so learned that they were not ashamed to dispute about faith and the gospel not only with Catholic laymen, but even with priests and monks and doctors of divinity." - A complaint by German humanist Johann Cochlaeus.
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Hi 'nesto welcome to the Forum.......................my wife has a cousin in Chicago....................we visited her this year................I looked hi and low for a place to send the cousin to worship. Couldn't find anything!!!!! She lives near Wrigley field where the Cubs (baseball team) plays. Any leads?....................................thanks.. ......KK
http://www.evangelica.de/New%20Focus%20Interview%20on%20Hyper-Calvinism.htmQ. The mark of a Hyper-Calvinist is that he does not believe in commanding and calling the sinner to come to Christ. If God wants a soul, he believes, He will convert him without human aid. Is this your view?
A. Obviously not, as must be clear by now. I would, however, question your definition. Surely Arminians and the like call Calvinists ´Hyper-Calvinists` because they do not believe in indiscriminate invitations, commands, offers etc. to persuade the ungodly to believe. This view was never part of Reformed teaching and is certainly less Calvinistic than Calvin. The Holy Spirit calls whom He will and when He will and it is obvious that His work is discriminating. This is why He transports Philip into the desert and William Carey to Serampore. Calvin explains this in Book II, Chap 21 of his Institutes:
"The covenant of life is not preached equally to all, and among those to whom it is preached, does not always meet with the same reception. This diversity displays the unsearchable depth of the divine judgement, and is without doubt subordinate to God`s purpose of eternal election." He argues that God, "does not adopt promiscuously to the hope of salvation, but gives to some what He denies to others. It is plain how greatly ignorance of this principle detracts from the glory of God, and impairs true humility.
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