Hi you-all! I was hoping someone could tell me of some books or articles (online) that teach the elect never being under the judical wrath of God. I will also look in the archives here for discussion, but I need help on any online books or articles anyone knows of. Thanks....................KK
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I wish I had an immediate answer for you KK--I don't (unfortunately). There is probably something from the era of Gill and Huntington written by one of them. We have presented material from Samuel Richardson before but he ended up being a universalist.
Nontheless, God's truth standeth sure from revelation alone!
Now see here how sleepy-headed all our opponents are, and how little it helps a man to rely on the ancient fathers, for all their repute down the course of the ages! Were they not all equally blind to, yes, and heeldess of, Paul's clearest and and plainest words?
--Martin Luther
Thanks Bob. I will review the archives also!........................KK
Hyper in KY................................... Justification from Eternity........................................ Imputation in Eternity
Hello Craig,Originally Posted by Kentucky Kid
In seeking books and publications pertaining to your inquiry, it may take some time. This is not saying there are none available. However, if we were living in the 13th century and asked if anyone had any articles or publications about the true doctrine of Justification, would we find them?
If there was only one book written throughout the history of mankind namely the Holy Bible, would that be sufficient for spiritual truth? I think so.
Truth is scarce, however lies and delusions are plentifull.
Nicholas
And he said , Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. John 6:65
I know that John Gill and Justification From Eternity by George Ella quotes many sources and works dealing with this subject. But I never purchased the book though I read it.
Now see here how sleepy-headed all our opponents are, and how little it helps a man to rely on the ancient fathers, for all their repute down the course of the ages! Were they not all equally blind to, yes, and heeldess of, Paul's clearest and and plainest words?
--Martin Luther
Thanks so much Bob and Nicholas!.......I wish I had more time to chat, but I'm very run down physically.....I was to leave tomorrow to ST LOUIS for a Vietnam era veterans reunion. Five old buddies are there. Plus I was hoping to call you Bob and Brandan! But I had to cancel to get rest! And Nicholas- I'd love to visit you- I have a relative in Lawrence PA. (south of Pitt) and hope to visit her someday. And yes Nicholas I'll start with God's Word. For now I need to get some rest. Thanks again!...KK
Hyper in KY................................... Justification from Eternity........................................ Imputation in Eternity
I have John Gill and Justification From Eternity by George Ella, in my library, and I highly recommend it. It puts to bed many of the arguments of duty faith and the heresy of Fullerism in Dr. Gills day. I would also recommend many of the biographies by Dr. G. Ella as his treatments of many of the historic figures in our history are dealt with from a very clear doctrinal framework of sov grace.
You can read many articles by Geroge Ella http://www.evangelica.de/ as well as a bibliography of his writings. You will find much in his writings that address the topic of the elect having never been under the judicial wrath of God.
I think one of the points is that the decree of God is so sure that those who were elect in eternity past had no possibility of ever seeing the wrath of God poured out. It would be like putting the perfect son of God under a probationary period where God would say, "Yes I want you to be perfectly obedient in your Earthly life, but if you are not I will have to threaten you with my eternal wrath." To quote Vicinni from "The Princess Bride"..."INCONCIEVABLE!!!" It is not possible that the elect son could have ever been under the threat of Gods wrath...neither can his elect ones who are in union with Christ. It goes against the character of God himself.
But I am no authority, I merely dabble...I recommend George Ella's writings, as well as Dr. Gills treatment of the topic.
Grace,
Jeff
Thanks Jeff! Hey folks, I had asked books concerning the elect never being under the wrath of God, I also would accept any info on books, articles, etc. where it is stated that the elect were never charged with their sins.....................THANK YOU!...................KK
Hyper in KY................................... Justification from Eternity........................................ Imputation in Eternity
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