Thanks to a picture put up by Trav, there is an exciting conference this upcoming year that you may want to attend:
http://www.anchoredintruth.org/tcc10/
Thanks to a picture put up by Trav, there is an exciting conference this upcoming year that you may want to attend
http://www.anchoredintruth.org/tcc10/
Isaiah 45:7: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
What a bunch of maroons!
http://www.anchoredintruth.org/tcc10...20brochure.pdf
Ditch the Garbage! - Too many people are proud of their humility - I, on the other hand, am not humble - and am proud of it!
"Luther's New Testament was so much multiplied and spread by printers that even tailors and shoemakers, yea, even women and ignorant persons who had accepted this new Lutheran gospel, and could read a little German, studied it with the greatest avidity as the fountain of all truth. Some committed it to memory, and carried it about in their bosom. In a few months such people deemed themselves so learned that they were not ashamed to dispute about faith and the gospel not only with Catholic laymen, but even with priests and monks and doctors of divinity." - A complaint by German humanist Johann Cochlaeus.
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Giggity-Giggity-Goo!!
Col 2:9, (NASB), For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form
So, anyone going? I need a ride. Swing on over to Texas and pick me up.
Last edited by Calvinator; 12-09-2009 at 11:12 AM.
Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
I'll pick you up, do you wanna split a room.
Col 2:9, (NASB), For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form
If anyone attends this 'thing' I have a list of questions to be asked:
1. Name the prominent hyper-Calvinist church leaders or spokesmen, both historically and at present. Internet bloggers or posters do not count unless they have established recognized 'churches'.
2. Where can the well-published writings of hyper-Calvinists be purchased? What are the names of the books I can buy at Amazon that most clearly represent their theology?
3. Name the prominent hyper-Calvinist church denominations so that persons can be sure to avoid visiting their services.
If these questions cannot be answered, hyper-Calvinism is a straw man that does not exist.
Now see here how sleepy-headed all our opponents are, and how little it helps a man to rely on the ancient fathers, for all their repute down the course of the ages! Were they not all equally blind to, yes, and heeldess of, Paul's clearest and and plainest words?
--Martin Luther
Let's get to the bottom of all these scare tactics and stereo-typical labels.
What they all hate and deny is our Sovereign God, while elevating human responsibility as the core of their soteriology. In this way they can continue to foist guilt upon their unsuspecting flock and keep them in their evil grip and control.
More $$$ means bigger and better buildings, programs, and a high paid clergy who respond to no one except their upper leaders and fellow clergymen. A true guild of thieves!
Miss one Sunday service, get a phone call. Miss two, get a visit. Miss three, and you are a backslider. Miss four or more and your out. They will say you were never saved to begin with. And dare disagree with the pastor or elders??
They hate the doctrine of "Equal Ultimacy" and in all their theoligical jargon dismiss the Immutable perfection and character of God.
A reactionary god they could have!
Nicholas
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand..........John 10:27,28
Yep! That is the conclusion that I have come to.Originally Posted by Robert R. Higby
Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
don't worry about a room. We won't be there that long. As soon as I ask bro Bob's questions I will be running out of there for my life. You keep the car running and a window down and I will dive through the window and you drive off real fast.I'll pick you up, do you wanna split a room.
Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
Is it possible that you could video tape your questions? I would enjoy seeing their responses haha.
John, did you attend? Just curious.
Now see here how sleepy-headed all our opponents are, and how little it helps a man to rely on the ancient fathers, for all their repute down the course of the ages! Were they not all equally blind to, yes, and heeldess of, Paul's clearest and and plainest words?
--Martin Luther
Nope! I did not go.
Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
I just checked the link again. It looks like it will be in February 2010. I will not be going.
Who first came up with hyper-Calvinism? Was it Arminians or was it Calvinists? I would think that Arminians would consider Calvinism itself to be hyper. We need a definition of what is hyper-Calvinism.
Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
John, I had a professor that constantly referred to himself as a "calvinist", but he was in fact an arminian that held to the preservation of the saints, which was completely inconsistent with his arminian beliefs. Anyway, he labeled true calvinism as "hyper-calvinism" all of the time. Some prof he was.
Col 2:9, (NASB), For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form
Hyper-Calvinism, a non-existant straw man and red herring, does not exist. So it cannot be defined. Something that is an illusion has no definition.
I once assumed that it existed and equated it with the conditionalist Primitive Baptist movement! So it was easy to distance myself from it to gain acceptance from those who hated it. STUPID. I didn't know what I was talking about at all. I am supposed to endure the persecuting insults of those who HATE the high-grace predestinarian doctrines of the gospel, even if it means that I have no churchian fellowship!
Now see here how sleepy-headed all our opponents are, and how little it helps a man to rely on the ancient fathers, for all their repute down the course of the ages! Were they not all equally blind to, yes, and heeldess of, Paul's clearest and and plainest words?
--Martin Luther
That would explain why the definition is so elusive, because there is not one.
Thanks Robert for your response.
Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
Mega Dittos! Yes, I felt the same way, and that is what led me to write the two articles, "Confession of a Hyper-Calvinist", and "Hyper-Calvinism is the Truth!". I do not mind the label, "hyper-calvinist" because it is really meaningless. The day people stop screaming "Hyper-calvinist" at me is the day that I need to re-examine what it is I'm actually proclaiming because I will have strayed from the Gospel message.
Ditch the Garbage! - Too many people are proud of their humility - I, on the other hand, am not humble - and am proud of it!
"Luther's New Testament was so much multiplied and spread by printers that even tailors and shoemakers, yea, even women and ignorant persons who had accepted this new Lutheran gospel, and could read a little German, studied it with the greatest avidity as the fountain of all truth. Some committed it to memory, and carried it about in their bosom. In a few months such people deemed themselves so learned that they were not ashamed to dispute about faith and the gospel not only with Catholic laymen, but even with priests and monks and doctors of divinity." - A complaint by German humanist Johann Cochlaeus.
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Two very good articles. I have read them both. If anyone has not read them, I highly recommend that you do.
Here are the links;
Confession of a Hyper-Calvinist
Hyper-Calvinism is the Truth : Darth Gill Responds to Phil Johnson
Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
Darth: The day people stop screaming "Hyper-calvinist" at me is the day that I need to re-examine what it is I'm actually proclaiming because I will have strayed from the Gospel message.
Amen to that! Even though hyper-Calvinism is not a definable entity, being accused of the label by infralapsarian Fullerists certainly means that you are taking gospel predestination and its implications seriously!
Now see here how sleepy-headed all our opponents are, and how little it helps a man to rely on the ancient fathers, for all their repute down the course of the ages! Were they not all equally blind to, yes, and heeldess of, Paul's clearest and and plainest words?
--Martin Luther
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